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10/28/2009

zz Stitching science together

Opinion

Nature 461, 881 (15 October 2009) | doi:10.1038/461881a; Published online 14 October 2009

Stitching science together

Cameron Neylon1

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Abstract

Google Wave is the kind of open-source online collaboration tool that should drive scientists to wire their research and publications into an interactive data web, says Cameron Neylon.

Stitching science together

ILLUSTRATION BY M. HODSON

Science communication today remains firmly wedded to its print origins. We cling to the notion that 'the real version' exists on the page. Beyond ease of delivery, we take very little advantage of the potential of the World Wide Web to transform the way we store and transfer knowledge. We rarely take the opportunity to update material with new data, or to provide a record of how a document or data set has changed. Gene names and protein structures should be routinely linked to database entries through hyperlinks. The outputs of computational processes should be connected to their inputs, so analyses can be redone. If we can make these records accessible to humans and readable by machines, then whole new types of analysis will become possible, indeed standard.

Many of these things are possible today. But they are hard to achieve. Much effort has gone into solving parts of the problem, by big players such as Microsoft and Amazon as well as by smaller organizations. Electronic lab notebooks can help to capture the details of science, and databases can make it available to the user. Reference-management tools such as Delicious, semantic data stores and Wikipedia can help to wire up and monitor knowledge. But the tools are often difficult to use and don't 'talk' to each other. There is no single framework that makes it easy to link all the steps of science. Scientists do their analysis and writing using different software, and prepare graphs and record data using different tools.

Very few companies worldwide have both the expertise and resources to take on the task of stitching this together. So it is with great interest that I have watched Google develop its product, Google Wave. The company describes Google Wave as "what e-mail would look like if it were invented today". It blends elements of e-mail with instant messaging and online collaborative authoring. The big change is that the 'document' or 'wave' is shared between all the participants and updates flow in real time. You no longer need to worry about which version of a document you have e-mailed around. This is helpful for scientists, but not revolutionary. Where Wave offers a big step for science is in two other functionalities.

Two steps forward

First, Wave introduces the idea of robots: automated agents that can be invited into a document. Robots could look through your paper checking for Protein Data Bank codes or gene names, for example, and putting in links to the databases. A robot might represent a lab instrument, adding data automatically to your laboratory record when they become available. You can easily add maps, video or three-dimensional graphics to your work using 'gadgets' or 'applications', familiar from services such as iGoogle and Facebook. Robots can interact with this information, making it possible to have a dashboard in your inbox to monitor and control instruments in the lab.

The second step forward is using versions. Each wave maintains a record of every change. It could be possible to check each step from data collection to drawing a graph and its publication. This would allow a reader to step through an analysis to see where conclusions have come from, and would make detecting fraud — or honest mistakes — much easier.

Google has done a good thing in making the protocol and programming tools open source, enabling people to test and build. Perhaps 50 people, myself included, from experimental scientists to journal publishers, have been testing the prototype system for science applications since June, building robots that link chemical information, visualize data and format references. Since 30 September, a much bigger group has been testing. But real benefits will come only if the system is widely adopted. Perhaps a new generation of scientists will be required to exploit the power that working with these dynamic documents and tools offers.

Solving the current problems in science communication requires the intervention of strong companies such as Google. But it will take more than technical advances to provoke scientists into taking full advantage of the web. We need pressure, and perhaps compulsion, from journals and funders to raise publishing standards to the new level made possible by such tools. Google Wave may not be, indeed is probably not, the whole answer. But it points the way to tools that build records and reproducibility into every step. And that has to be good for science.

  1. Cameron Neylon is senior scientist in biomolecular sciences at the Science and Technology Facilities Council Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Didcot OX11 0QX, UK.
    Email: cameron.neylon@stfc.ac.uk

10/16/2009

zz China's unofficial democracy

Books and Arts

Nature 461, 731 (8 October 2009) | doi:10.1038/461731a; Published online 7 October 2009

China's unofficial democracy

Li Gong1

BOOK REVIEWED-The Power of the Internet in China: Citizen Activism Online

by Guobin Yang

Columbia University Press: 2009. 320 pp. $29.50, £20.50

China's unofficial democracy

JIANAN YU/REUTERS/CORBIS

China's online community has found its own voice.

In July this year, a 20-year-old university student in the southern Chinese city of Hangzhou was sentenced to three years in prison for driving recklessly and killing a pedestrian. This would have been a sad but unremarkable case, except that it was only brought following a huge national outcry. Reports that local police initially protected the student, whose family was well connected, were spread over the Internet and eventually forced the police to respond.

Similar examples of online citizen activism occur every day. The Power of the Internet in China analyses how the Internet's rapid development in China has given its citizens a mechanism to air and share individual opinions that may differ from official positions, to connect and organize often against the will of the authorities, and to improve their own lives directly and visibly. The Internet allows Chinese citizens to practise, as cultural critic Raymond Williams termed it, "unofficial democracy".

In researching the book, Guobin Yang, a professor at Columbia University who grew up in China, read Chinese material first-hand, observed and participated in online forums and interacted with Chinese citizens online. The book's 70 case studies range from patients with diabetes or hepatitis B fighting against governmental employment discrimination, to Internet-organized worldwide demonstrations in response to the 1998 Indonesian atrocities towards the local ethnic Chinese population, to massive online and offline protests over news reporting by Western media in the run-up to the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

Yang's recounting of notable events along the historical path to China's online activism brought back old memories of my own. The first electronic gathering place targeted at people interested in China — the USENET newsgroup soc.culture.china — was started soon after I left Beijing for Cambridge, UK, in late 1987. I quickly became an active participant, devoting entire mornings to reading and replying to postings. As a student, I helped edit China News Digest, the first China-themed English-language electronic newsletter, which was published free by e-mail.

The milestone event for the citizens' Internet inside China was the founding in 1995 of the Tsinghua Bulletin Board System (BBS), which was started by students at the computer-science department of Tsinghua University, where I was an undergraduate. Even today, with the prevalence of text messaging, blogs, YouTube and Twitter, the BBS continues to be a widely used online platform in China, and its underlying technology has progressed from dial-up connections to broadband networks.

Although filled with vivid anecdotes, this book is an academic publication. Its storytelling is punctuated by jargon and scholarly narratives, including numerous academic references. Nonetheless, it is a valuable information resource. Yang's analysis covers a broad canvas and includes many statistics. The investigation into the business side of online activism will particularly fascinate many readers. Online viewings surely translate into money, and manufactured online contention generates lots of viewings. Some businesses, including art dealers, present items as 'banned in China' to promote their wares. Also a reality are competitive tactics, such as the '50 cents party' — people who are paid 50 cents an item for posting prescribed messages at online forums.

Governmental control of content is the elephant in the room. The mechanisms for restricting content flow into China and for controlling domestic Internet content — down to a single book entry on Amazon, for example — have become sophisticated in recent years. This is aided by the fact that only a few state-owned access points connect the domestic Internet to the outside world. Chinese 'netizens' counter these constraints with ingenuity, such as using Internet proxies to bypass state firewalls, or posting opinions in unrelated forums to postpone detection. The Chinese habit of reposting — in which a user copies an article in its entirety to a new forum, rather than linking to the original posting — makes the job of eradicating an erratic blog much harder.

Sixteen years ago this month, media magnate Rupert Murdoch declared that "advances in the technology of telecommunications have proved an unambiguous threat to totalitarian regimes everywhere". Last year, China overtook the United States as the country with the largest online population. In the time between, Yang's book documents how China's netizens have stumbled on online activism as a response to, among other things, a flawed justice system. Time will tell whether the revolution in communication technologies will lead to a new cultural or social revolution.

  1. Li Gong is chairman and chief executive of Mozilla Online, 21 Jian Guo Men Wai Avenue, Chaoyang, Beijing 100020, China.
    Email: lgong@mozilla.com
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09/15/2009

zz China Fights Against Statistical Corruption

Science 7 August 2009:
Vol. 325. no. 5941, pp. 675 - 676
DOI: 10.1126/science.325_675

Letters

China Fights Against Statistical Corruption

Particularly in the current financial crisis, many countries rely on statistics released by the Chinese government for production and trade of bulk commodities, exchange rates, and economic stimulus. However, the credibility of China's statistics has long been questioned. On 1 May, a new regulation, Rules on Punishment for Violation of Laws in Statistics, was put in effect by the Ministry of Supervision, Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security, and the National Bureau of Statistics (1).

Statistical corruption has been found in China for years, largely for two reasons. First, economic growth is a key factor determining the promotion of government officials. Statistical data and numbers are regarded as a reflection of economic growth, which is used to evaluate the performance of the officials. This is the so-called "numbers make leaders" phenomenon ("shu zi chu guan" in Chinese). Second, the statistical organizations are not independent entities in China. They are a part of the government and hence are vulnerable to government interference. Without specific laws and regulations to punish statistical corruption, government leaders can intervene in statistical reporting with low political risks. They may tailor statistics for different purposes, such as inflating statistical numbers that indicate economic achievements and decreasing statistical numbers for environmental pollution and damage (2). This is the so-called "leaders make numbers" phenomenon ("guan chu shu zi" in Chinese).

The previous Statistics Law in China has been in effect since 1983, but it was too vague to enforce. Although it stated the penalty for illegal acts, the law did not clearly specify the types of the illegal acts and the extent to which penalties should be imposed. In contrast, the new regulation lists four types of statistics cheating: revising statistics without permission, or making up statistics; forcing or ordering statistics departments or individuals to revise or make up statistics or refuse to report statistics; retaliation against individuals who refuse to issue false statistics; and retaliation against individuals who report statistics violations (3). The degree of punishment depends on consequences of the violations, and the punishments include a warning, recording a demerit, or even removing officials from their positions.

The new regulation is an important step in the fight against statistical corruption in China. Nevertheless, to eradicate illegal acts in statistical work, further actions are needed, such as reform of the evaluation system for officials and the establishment of independent statistical organizations. Without progress in these areas, the goal of an 8% GDP growth rate for 2009 announced by the Chinese government could be merely another number created by leaders.

Junguo Liu1,* and Hong Yang2

* To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: water21water@yahoo.com

1 School of Nature Conservation, Beijing Forestry University, Beijing, 100083, China.
2 Eawag, Swiss Federal Institute of Aquatic Science and Technology, 8600 Duebendorf, Switzerland.

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09/03/2009

zz Internet addiction center opens in US

Internet addiction center opens in US

This photo taken Sept. 1, 2009 shows reSTART Internet Addiction Recovery Program AP – This photo taken Sept. 1, 2009 shows reSTART Internet Addiction Recovery Program client Ben Alexander …
By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS, Associated Press Writer Nicholas K. Geranios, Associated Press Writer 22 mins ago

FALL CITY, Wash. – Ben Alexander spent nearly every waking minute playing the video game "World of Warcraft." As a result, he flunked out of the University of Iowa.

Alexander, 19, needed help to break an addiction he calls as destructive as alcohol or drugs. He found it in this suburb of high-tech Seattle, where what claims to be the first residential treatment center for Internet addiction in the United States just opened its doors.

The center, called ReSTART, is somewhat ironically located near Redmond, headquarters of Microsoft and a world center of the computer industry. It opened in July and for $14,000 offers a 45-day program intended to help people wean themselves from pathological computer use, which can include obsessive use of video games, texting, Facebook, eBay, Twitter and any other time-killers brought courtesy of technology.

"We've been doing this for years on an outpatient basis," said Hilarie Cash, a therapist and executive director of the center. "Up until now, we had no place to send them."

Internet addiction is not recognized as a separate disorder by the American Psychiatric Association, and treatment is not generally covered by insurance. But there are many such treatment centers in China, South Korea and Taiwan — where Internet addiction is taken very seriously — and many psychiatric experts say it is clear that Internet addiction is real and harmful.

The five-acre center in Fall City, about 30 miles east of Seattle, can handle up to six patients at a time. Alexander is so far the only patient of the program, which uses a cold turkey approach. He spends his days in counseling and psychotherapy sessions, doing household chores, working on the grounds, going on outings, exercising and baking a mean batch of ginger cookies.

Whether such programs work in the long run remains to be seen. For one thing, the Internet is so pervasive that it can be nearly impossible to resist, akin to placing an alcoholic in a bar, Cash said.

The effects of addiction are no joke. They range from loss of a job or marriage to car accidents for those who can't stop texting while driving. Some people have died after playing video games for days without a break, generally stemming from a blood clot associated with being sedentary.

Psychotherapist Cosette Dawna Rae has owned the bucolic retreat center since 1994, and was searching for a new use for it when she hooked up with Cash. They decided to avoid treating people addicted to Internet sex, in part because she lives in the center with her family.

According to Dr. Kimberly Young of the Center for Internet Addiction Recovery in Bradford, Pa., addiction warning signs are being preoccupied with thoughts of the Internet; using it longer than intended, and for increasing amounts of time; repeatedly making unsuccessful efforts to control use; jeopardizing relationships, school or work to spend time online; lying to cover the extent of Internet use; using the Internet to escape problems or feelings of depression; physical changes to weight, headaches or carpal tunnel syndrome.

Exactly how to respond is being debated.

For instance, Internet addiction can be a symptom of other mental illness, such as depression, or conditions like autism, experts say.

"From what we know, many so-called `Internet addicts' are folks who have severe depression, anxiety disorders, or social phobic symptoms that make it hard for them to live a full, balanced life and deal face-to-face with other people," said Dr. Ronald Pies, professor of psychiatry at SUNY Upstate Medical University in Syracuse, N.Y.

"It may be that unless we treat their underlying problems, some new form of `addiction' will pop up down the line," Pies said.

There is debate about whether to include Internet addiction as a separate illness in the next edition of the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders," due in 2012, which determines which mental illnesses get covered by insurance.

Pies and Dr. Jerald Block, of Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland, said there is not enough research yet to justify that.

"Among psychiatrists there is general recognition that many patients have difficulty controlling their impulses to chat online, or play computer games or watch porn," Block said. "The debate is how to classify that."

Cash, co-author of the book "Video Games & Your Kids," first started dealing with Internet addiction in 1994, with a patient who was so consumed by video games that he had lost his marriage and two jobs.

Internet addicts miss out on real conversations and real human development, often see their hygiene, their home and relationships deteriorate, don't eat or sleep properly and don't get enough exercise, Rae said.

Alexander is a tall, quiet young man who always got good grades and hopes to become a biologist.

He started playing "World of Warcraft," a hugely popular online multiplayer role playing game, about a year ago, and got sucked right in.

"At first it was a couple of hours a day," he said. "By midway through the first semester, I was playing 16 or 17 hours a day.

"School wasn't interesting," he said. "It was an easy way to socialize and meet people."

It was also an easy way to flunk out.

Alexander dropped out in the second semester and went to a traditional substance abuse program, which was not a good fit. He graduated from a 10-week outdoors-based program in southern Utah, but felt he still had little control over his gaming.

So he sought out a specialized program and arrived in Fall City in July. He thinks it was a good choice.

"I don't think I'll go back to `World of Warcraft' anytime soon," Alexander said.

08/27/2009

zz Reshuffling Graduate Training

Science 31 July 2009:
Vol. 325. no. 5940, pp. 528 - 530
DOI: 10.1126/science.325_528

News Focus

Science Education:

Reshuffling Graduate Training

Jeffrey Mervis

Nobelist Roald Hoffmann believes that taking graduate students off grants and giving them fellowships would be good for U.S. science. But others say such a radical change isn't in the cards.


Figure 1

Bottom of the pile. Cartoonist Jorge Cham's view of lab hierarchy. (Twos are not wild.)

CREDIT: JORGE CHAM © 2004, WWW.PHDCOMICS.COM

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Dressed in satin and sequins, Roald Hoffman has ridden atop the first science-themed float in Rio's famed Carnival. Once a month, he appears on stage at a New York City café to host a revue of science and the arts. It's all part of what Hoffmann, a 1981 Nobelist for his work on the theory of chemical reactions, calls his "extreme outreach to the community."

"I think science should be fun," Hoffmann said in May to the National Science Board, the oversight body for the National Science Foundation (NSF), when it awarded him its prestigious Public Service Medal. But after flashing pictures of himself at Carnival and on stage at the Cornelia Street Café in Greenwich Village, Hoffmann got down to business: "Now I want to shift gears and talk about something serious."

What Hoffmann wanted to discuss is a proposal for changing how the U.S. government supports the training of graduate students in the sciences. Federal research agencies now funnel most of their money for graduate students through grants to faculty members. That's the case for nearly 90% of the 39,000 graduate students whom NSF supports each year and for about two-thirds of those getting money from the National Institutes of Health (NIH). The remaining students are funded via fellowships, awarded directly to them, or through traineeships, in which universities compete for a grant to support a certain number of students in a particular area for a fixed period of time.

The commingling of education and research has created a system that is the envy of the world in terms of research productivity. It's also not a bad deal for the student, who typically doesn't pay a penny to earn her Ph.D. The university picks up the tuition for her required courses, and her research is funded through a federal grant awarded to her adviser, who then hires her to work in his lab. In return, she'll probably teach some undergraduate classes during her first few semesters, after which her adviser will receive several years of skilled labor at below-market rates.

But that wildly successful system comes at a high cost to both students and the profession, says Hoffmann, who also made his case in an 8 May editorial in The Chronicle of Higher Education. And it's not sustainable, he argues, especially during tough economic times like these. A better approach, says Hoffmann, would be for the government to stop supporting graduate students on research grants—roughly 30% of a typical NSF chemistry grant pays for graduate students, for example—and use the money for competitive fellowships that students could use at the university of their choice.

That seemingly minor shift could have huge consequences for universities and for the entire U.S. research enterprise. Although they admit Hoffmann's proposal faces long odds, some community leaders say that such a change is long overdue and that his suggestion offers a promising road map. "The real power of an individual fellowship is that it empowers a young scientist to act in a more independent manner, on something creative and for which they have a passion," says Thomas Cech, a Nobelist who recently returned to academia after a decade as head of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) in Chevy Chase, Maryland. "And that's what science is really about." Under the current system, he says, "a graduate student is told, ‘Do experiment 2a because it's in our grant.’ That turns the student into a pair of hands. So I think a shift to fellowships would be an excellent idea."

Shirley Tilghman, president of Princeton University and chair of a 1998 National Academies panel that offered advice on career paths in the life sciences, says a move away from supporting graduate students on research grants would also address two other major flaws. Although the current system has succeeded in maximizing the amount of research performed, she says, it has also degraded the quality of graduate training and led to an overproduction of Ph.D.s in some areas. Unhitching training from research grants would be a much-needed form of professional "birth control," says Tilghman, who favors more federally funded traineeships. (Traineeships are grants awarded to institutions, which in turn promise to provide students with professional and career counseling as well as a chance to develop their scientific skills in specific areas.) Reducing the overall number of graduate students in the life sciences "is a price that I'd be willing to pay," she says, in return for a better training environment and improved job prospects.

Fellowships already have a strong following. Building on a 2007 proposal from economist Richard Freeman of Harvard University, President Barack Obama has promised to triple by 2013 the annual number of NSF's prestigious Graduate Research Fellowships, which run for 3 years and cover all fields that NSF funds. And another newcomer to Washington, HHMI President Robert Tjian, hopes to revive a graduate fellowship program that the institute terminated in 2003 when money became tight. Tjian sees the program, which would be open to the most talented students from around the world who are studying in the United States, as an important investment in the next generation of academic researchers.

However, other academic leaders worry that Hoffmann's proposal risks killing the goose that laid the golden egg. "Any radical shift away from what we do now is risky because it would jeopardize a strong innovation system," says Debra Stewart, president of the Council of Graduate Schools in Washington, D.C. Robert Berdahl, president of the Association of American Universities, also thinks that a wholesale shift to fellowships would be unwise because it would take the selection of graduate students out of the hands of investigators. "In effect, by making awards to individual researchers, we are asking faculty members to find the best students," says Berdahl, a former chancellor of the University of California, Berkeley. "Presumably, there is a correlation between the quality of an individual [scientist] and the quality of the students in his or her lab."

A system out of balance

Hoffmann, a professor at Cornell University, says he began to think about the need for changing the current system during a series of recent departmental meetings on coping with the economic downturn. Most of the suggestions from faculty members, he concluded, would erode undergraduate instruction, about which he is passionate. Although Cornell officials say they are still working on a long-term plan, Hoffmann fears that a one-time, 5% cut in the chemistry department's operating budget starting this fall will be extended for 3 years and that the result will be larger classes, fewer instructors, and limits on enrollment in some courses. "We're firing some of our best teachers," he says. In contrast, he adds, research programs are likely to be unaffected because they are funded by federal dollars that are beyond the university's control.

G. Peter Lepage, a physicist and dean of the College of Arts and Sciences at Cornell, says every university is struggling to educate undergraduates and maintain a strong research program in the face of shrinking endowments, reduced state subsidies, and pressure to hold down tuition increases. Lepage says he doesn't see how Hoffmann's suggestions would help undergraduates, and he worries that they could harm research. "I have to make sure I have enough money to cover our teaching responsibilities [to undergraduates]," he says. "And we'll figure out a way to do that. At the same time, our faculty need graduate students to do their research, and we need to admit enough of them to do the research as well as to teach the courses."


Figure 2

A radical redesign. Roald Hoffmann says supporting graduate students from grants benefits researchers and undermines instruction.

CREDIT: COURTESY OF ROALD HOFFMANN

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The current recession could have an impact on undergraduates, Lepage acknowledges. Graduate science students typically spend their first 2 years as teaching assistants while they take courses and explore research options, he says, whereas their final 3 years are devoted to research. "If you have more research money and less money for TAs, maybe we'll have to rejigger that balance and go from four to three semesters of teaching [per graduate student] and from six to seven semesters of research," he says. "But both missions will get done."

Hoffmann readily admits that a shift to fellowships, which are now limited to U.S. citizens, would have one major unfortunate consequence: It would drain the graduate pool of most students from China, India, and other nations. Foreign students f ill a majority of the slots in many U.S. graduate programs in the natural sciences and engineering, but few could afford to come on their own dime. Hoffmann says he would regret losing those students but points to a silver lining. Having universities award fewer science Ph.D.s should force employers to pay higher salaries, he predicts, and attract more of the best U.S. students into science.

Tjian's plan would extend a helping hand to foreign students as well. (As a private philanthropy, Hughes doesn't have to answer to the political argument that U.S. tax dollars should be spent on Americans.) But the Hughes program will serve only a tiny fraction of the foreign graduate students now in the country.

Freeman, a labor economist who studies the dynamics of the scientific work force, sides with Cech and Hoffmann when it comes to the value of fellowships. However, Freeman thinks that Hoffmann's all-or-nothing plan ignores both economic and political realities. "We produce two things at our universities: education and science," says Freeman. "That's what society wants from us. And students will still want to work in a lab."

Freeman says Hoffmann's suggestions would result in "more expensive science, and that means fewer people doing it. That's not consistent with where most policymakers think we should be headed as a country. ... I hate to reject something because it's radically different, but I think he needs to do a better job of modeling [the consequences]."

Getting the work done

What would fewer graduate students mean for research? Tilghman says that many scientists reacted in horror to the suggestion in her 1998 report that a typical 10-member lab might shed one graduate student as a way to reduce the overproduction of Ph.D.s and improve the quality of their training. "The PIs [principal investigators] told us that the lab's productivity would go way down if they left," she recalls.

Tilghman is dubious. "I think that's highly debatable, and in any case, it's never been rigorously tested," she says. "Every scientist knows that graduate students often go through long periods in which they are totally unproductive."


Figure 3

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Barbara Baird, the chair of Hoffmann's department of chemistry and biochemistry, thinks that her colleague is ignoring a fundamental rule of academic research. "Federal agencies hand out money based on what the PI says is needed to do a particular project," Baird explains. "If graduate students become a less dependable source of labor, then the tendency will be to simply hire postdocs. The work still needs to be done."

At NIH, the bulk of the training programs are run by the National Institute of General Medical Sciences. Its director, Jeremy Berg, says he shares Hoffmann's concern about maintaining high-quality undergraduate and graduate programs in the face of mounting pressure from faculty members to maintain their research programs. "The biggest driver for the production of Ph.D.s is not the perception that there is an undersupply but rather that there's work that needs to be done," says Berg. "However, even if they are cheap, I'd argue that students are also smart, committed, and hard-working labor."

Hoffmann says he assumes that a system of competitive fellowships would widen the already large gap between the elite universities and the rest of the nation's system of higher education, pointing to the fact that the top-20 research universities historically have attracted a disproportionate share of NSF's graduate research fellowships. Increasing that imbalance would bother him, he admits, but not enough to torpedo the idea.


Figure 4

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For other scientists, however, that outcome would be a showstopper. "My fear is that you'd be creating a narrower base for the country's research enterprise and lose the geographic diversity of science that now exists," says Susan Gerbi, a biochemist at Brown University and an authority on training issues in the life sciences. "In addition, a school on the rise might not have access to the graduate students it needs."

A fellowships-only system, Gerbi says, would also lead to "wild swings in enrollment from one year to the next." On the other hand, say Gerbi and Tilghman, a shift to traineeships would reward universities that articulate a well-crafted approach to build up the talent pool in a particular area and also provide program stability.


Figure 5

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Berg says that striking the right balance between types of graduate support is a perennial issue for NIH and that Hoffmann's proposal is "a blunt instrument for a subtle problem." One complication, he says, is that federal research grants have become an increasingly important source of support for academic science "not just to support a research program but also to support institutional activities." That's code for the overhead charges—about 50% to 60%—that universities add to federal grants. In comparison, training grants and fellowships typically have overhead rates of 10% or less.

Is that difference large enough to make fellowships unattractive to most universities? "I'd like to know" what administrators think about that, says Berg.

Cech thinks the different overhead rates do influence how universities view support for graduate students. But he says those reimbursement rates aren't carved in stone. "There's no law that you can only give 10% in indirect costs for a fellowship," he argues. "You could make it 40%, on the grounds that they provide us with research results as well as training. Of course, that would cost more, so the money for training wouldn't go as far."

Senior NSF officials actually considered a variation of Hoffmann's proposal several years ago, notes Esin Gulari, dean of science and engineering at Clemson University in South Carolina and a former head of engineering at NSF. The plan would have allowed researchers to request money for a certain number of traineeships as part of their grant application; at the same time, support for graduate students would be excluded from their grant. "But it never went further than that," says Gulari, now a member of the science board and part of Hoffmann's target audience. "We were so focused on increasing the size of the stipends" for existing fellowships, she says, that the question of shifting the balance between various modes of support was never addressed.

Even those who agree with Hoffmann that changes are needed are not optimistic they will occur. Tilghman says the topic "is not high on the agenda" of most of her fellow university presidents. Instead, she's pinning her hopes on the heads of the various federal research agencies. But bringing about the changes Hoffmann has suggested, she adds, will require them to put the common good above the self-interest of their constituents, namely, individual scientists.

"We need to care most about the health of the overall scientific enterprise," she says. "If your only perspective is attracting the labor to run your lab, then the status quo works very well."
06/16/2009

zz Charting the heavens from China

Books and Arts

Nature 459, 778-779 (11 June 2009) | doi:10.1038/459778a; Published online 10 June 2009

Charting the heavens from China

Jane Qiu1

ARTS REVIEWED: -The Dunhuang Star Chart

The British Library, London
Until 18 August 2009.

Charting the heavens from China

BRITISH LIBRARY, OR.8210/S.3326

The three stars that make up the familiar 'belt' of Orion are recognizable in this panel from the seventh-century star chart discovered near Dunhuang, China.

Along the ancient trade route of the Silk Road connecting China and the West, the Mogao Caves honeycomb the Mingsha Hill some 25 kilometres southeast of Dunhuang, a desert town in Gansu province. Excavated between the fourth and fourteenth centuries, the caves were Buddhist shrines and temples where travellers prayed for the success of their journeys.

In 1900, the Taoist priest Wang Yuanlu propelled the Mogao Caves to the status of an archaeological crown jewel when he stumbled upon a hidden library in Cave 17. It contained more than 40,000 manuscripts on a myriad of subjects, from religion, history, art and literature to mathematics, medicine and economics. The documents had been sealed in the cave by Buddhist monks in the eleventh century.

Among the manuscripts was an exquisite star chart. It shows the entire sky as visible from China, skilfully drawn by hand in red and black inks onto a fine, four-metre-long paper scroll. In 1907, archaeologist Marc Aurel Stein took the chart and more than 7,000 other cave manuscripts to the British Museum in London.

Dated to between 649 and 684 ad, the chart is the oldest extant graphical star atlas in the world, explains Susan Whitfield, director of the British Library's International Dunhuang Project, which aims to make information and images about the artefacts available on the Internet. The atlas is on display at the British Library in London this summer to celebrate the International Year of Astronomy.

The atlas is divided into two sections. One shows 26 drawings of differently shaped clouds accompanied by text on cloud divination. The other section portrays 12 star maps, each depicting a 30 ° division of the sky in the east–west direction, plus a map of the circumpolar sky. The star positions are drawn as observed from a latitude of 34° N, possibly from the Imperial Observatory in Chang'an (present-day Xi'an) or another site in Luoyang.

The atlas shows 1,339 stars arranged in 257 groups, or asterisms, two of which resemble the constellations of the Big Dipper and Orion. It includes faint stars that are difficult to see with the naked eye, and several in the Southern Hemisphere. The styles of the dots differentiate the three schools of astronomical tradition established during the Warring States period (476–221 bc), each of which adopted alternative names and descriptions for the star groups.

The positions of the brightest stars are surprisingly accurate to within a few degrees, says astronomer Jean-Marc Bonnet-Bidaud of the CEA, the French Atomic Energy Commission, who has studied the atlas together with Whitfield and Françoise Praderie of the Paris Observatory (J.-M. Bonnet-Bidaud , F. Praderie and S. Whitfield J. Astron. Hist. Herit. 12, 39–59; 2009). Stars near the celestial horizon are drawn using a cylindrical projection, in which meridians are mapped to equally spaced vertical lines, and circles of latitude are mapped to horizontal lines. The circumpolar region uses an azimuthal projection, preserving the directions of the stars from a central point. These methods are still used in geographical mapping today.

Ancient Chinese astronomers divided the celestial circle into 12 sections to follow the orbit of Jupiter, known as the Year Star in China, which loops the Sun about every 12 years. The Jupiter cycle is also the basis for the 12 months of the year that make up the Chinese calendar. On the Dunhuang chart, the text accompanying each star map names that region of sky, the astrological predictions associated with it and the states of the Chinese empire thought to be influenced by that division.

The chart may have been reproduced from an earlier atlas by tracing it on to fine paper. It has no coordinate grid, and shares wording with another traditional astronomical text, Yue Ling, or Monthly Ordinances, which has been dated to around 300 bc. Yet it remains the earliest-surviving detailed map of the entire northern sky, pre-dating others by several centuries. Older star maps described only part of the sky. The Book of Fixed Stars, an Arabic work written by the Persian astronomer Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi (903–986 ad), displays individual constellations but gives no information on their relative positions. The oldest-known star chart in Europe is the Vienna manuscript. Dated to 1440 ad, it shows only a limited number of stars in northern constellations, plotted in an azimuthal projection from the ecliptic pole.

The chart may have been used to consult the heavens to predict earthly events. Astronomy was an imperial science in ancient China, and court astronomers and astrologers created star charts from at least the fifth century bc. Chinese emperors sought celestial clues for political and warfare decisions, and the importance of divination led to an early precision in star catalogues.

But why was the chart kept in the Mogao Caves rather than in the imperial archive? "It remains a mystery," says Whitfield. A political and secret document, it may have served a military purpose rather than being a guide for travellers. When the Taoist priest discovered the hidden library, he could hardly have guessed that he was opening the door to a world of such fascinating antiquity.

See http://www.nature.com/astro09 for more on the International Year of Astronomy.

  1. Jane Qiu writes for Nature from Beijing.
    Email: jane@janeqiu.com
05/04/2009

zz China Falls Short on Olympic Cleanup

China Falls Short on Olympic Cleanup

By Jackie Grom
ScienceNOW Daily News
27 April 2009

When most people think about the Olympic Games, they envision blazing torches, gold medals, and triumphant athletes. But a handful of scientists saw the 2008 Beijing Olympics as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to find out what happens when a major industrial city suddenly cuts back on air pollution. The first analysis of this "experiment" concludes that China's efforts produced only a slight improvement in Beijing's air quality.

Beijing sits in a soupy haze of pollution from nearby factories, coal-fired power plants, and traffic that increases dramatically by the day, making the city one of the most air polluted in the world. China spent billions of dollars trying to control emissions that could hinder athlete's performances on game day. From 20 July to 20 September 2008, the Chinese government temporarily closed factories and regulated the number of cars on the road in Beijing and in nearby areas, all with the hopes of curbing aerosols--fine particles suspended in the atmosphere. China tried a similar traffic strategy in 2006 during a 3-day political summit and achieved 40% to 60% reductions in aerosol concentrations, according to one study. But this study covered only a short period and concentrated on aerosols at ground level, not throughout the larger atmosphere. For the 2008 Olympics, Chinese officials called for reductions of 60% to 70% in automobile emissions and up to 30% in industrial emissions.

To find out how successful they were, atmospheric scientist Jan Cermak of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich and a colleague used satellite data to measure the overall amount of particulates hanging over Beijing from 1 August through 19 September for each year from 2002 through 2008. This technique allowed them to analyze aerosol concentrations in the atmosphere from top to bottom but didn't allow them to decipher exactly where they were in that space. But just monitoring aerosols isn't enough, because weather also affects air pollution's severity--a rainy day can flush pollutants from the air, whereas a windy day can bring in pollutants from far-off industrial areas or carry them out of the city. So the researchers also collected data on wind speed and direction, rainfall, and relative humidity. They then applied these relationships to predict what air pollution would have been in 2008 without any emission controls.

It turns out that the Chinese only achieved a modest reduction in aerosols. The researchers report in a paper in press in Geophysical Research Letters that pollution-control efforts reduced the overall amount of aerosols in the atmosphere by about 10% to 15%. That small change highlights the importance of factors such as wind direction in determining local pollution, says Cermak. In spite of the reduction in local emissions, winds from the south and southeast sullied Beijing's air by bringing in pollution from distant industrial areas, he says.

Tad Anderson, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Washington, Seattle, says that this paper shows that China's attempt to curb pollution was "based on a flawed understanding of the nature of atmospheric aerosols." He points out that aerosols can stay in the air for days and easily travel thousands of kilometers. "You take out the local sources in Beijing and you've still got the regional [sources], which are the dominant cause of pollution."

Still, it's too early to dismiss China's pollution control efforts, says atmospheric scientist Qi Zhang of the State University of New York at Albany. She cautions that the satellite data can't tease out the effects of the emissions controls at ground level, where people breathe.

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03/17/2009

zz Collective responsibilities

说到底,还是怎么才能搞出一个非盈利组织的问题。
 

Editorial

Nature 457, 935 (19 February 2009) | doi:10.1038/457935a; Published online 18 February 2009

Collective responsibilities

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Abstract

China should stop discouraging scientists from setting up learned societies.

The spread in China of unproven stem-cell therapies for conditions such as epilepsy and spinal cord injuries has left the nation's health authorities concerned. There is no clear evidence that these treatments work — nor that they are killing people. Of the thousands of patients from China and abroad who have been treated, some seem to think that they have been helped, even if only modestly, and many more are ready to fork out thousands or tens of thousands of dollars to try out the treatments. Are the clinicians taking advantage of people desperate for a cure? How can the government — and the potential patients — make sense of this?

One obvious place from which to seek guidance would be the national stem-cell society. But China doesn't have one. A group of scientists, including many of the country's most prominent and internationally established researchers, are trying to create one.

The Chinese authorities, however, tend to have an aversion to congregations— especially those such as the Falun Gong, which they believe pose a threat to the country's stability. So the Ministry of Civil Affairs keeps a tight hold on who is allowed to organize in any formal sense. As a result, China's stem-cell hopefuls must go through the slow process of planning and applying to become a 'level 2' society. That means they have to convince an established society to take them on as an appendage, which will dramatically reduce their ability to function effectively. A level 2 society doesn't control its own purse strings and decisions have to pass through the parent organization.

Yet, as the example above illustrates, allowing scientists to draw together can only benefit China, both by helping scientific progress and by assisting with the challenges faced by the Chinese nation.

It is not just the government that needs to rethink its approach: the researchers themselves need to pursue newer forms of social organization. Scientists in the south often don't know what is happening in the north and vice versa. Most of the current learned societies do not function well. Annual meetings are often a matter of pomp, with elite researchers showing up to swagger about and form cliques based on pedigree rather than scientific views. Introducing graduate students to the broader community is a low priority. Constructive criticism is more likely be taken as grounds for breaking off relations than as insightful advice. Many scientists simply don't bother to go.

Scientists in the south of China often don't know what is happening in the north and vice versa.

Sometimes 'megaprojects' draw researchers together. But the planning meetings for such packages can be more like dividing the spoils than building the most constructive research programme.

China's science loses competitiveness because of these failings. Stronger societies would pave the way for better communication and more productive collaborations, and would allow a platform for feedback of scientific criticism. That, in turn, would provide a body of honest reviewers with whom funding bodies could consult. Too often, instead of listening to a variety of voices to get a representative view from 'the community', funding bodies listen only to certain well connected scientists. Strong domestic scientific societies have the additional benefit of being reference points for constructive contact with scientists and societies elsewhere. And they can also act as advisory bodies to the government.

Gone are the days of small research communities in China. Science has grown significantly, to China's credit and benefit. For the country to benefit more fully, networking by its researchers likewise needs to be allowed to flourish.

03/16/2009

人肉搜索的理论依据

Research Highlights

Nature 457, 939 (19 February 2009) | doi:10.1038/457939c; Published online 18 February 2009

Networks: Know a good dentist?

Phys. Rev. Lett. 102, 058701 (2009)

If you need a dentist in London, who do you ask? Perhaps a friend who lives there? Even if they don't have a name, they can put you in touch with another friend who might. In this strategy, called 'greedy routing', you navigate the network of Londoners without knowing its global structure.

Now Marián Boguñá of the University of Barcelona in Spain and Dmitri Krioukov at the University of California, San Diego, prove that greedy is speedy. They show that greedy routing yields the fastest journey through networks such as the Internet. They suggest that switching to greedy routing could improve the Internet's speed.

 

小翻译一下:

如果你想在伦敦找个牙医,怎么找?大概是问个住在伦敦的朋友吧。就算他不知道任何一个牙医的名字,但是他能帮你找到一个认识牙医的人。这个策略就叫"greedy routing",即在不知道整体结构的前提下搜索整个伦敦居民网络。

现在西班牙某人和美国某人,俩人闲得没事,证明了这个贪婪策略是相当有效的策略(greedy is speedy)。贪婪策略可以在网络结构上找出最快的路径,所以,如果把互联网也根据贪婪策略来组合的话应该可以提高速度。

03/15/2009

zz Movies for a scientific mind

Books and Arts

Nature 457, 1087 (26 February 2009) | doi:10.1038/4571087a; Published online 25 February 2009

Movies for a scientific mind

Jascha Hoffman1

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Abstract

Jascha Hoffman reviews the Sundance Film Festival.

It will be a good year for films about science, judging from the screenings at the 2009 Sundance Film Festival, held in Park City, Utah, last month. Aside from environmental documentaries, some of the more intriguing films on offer examined the human mind.

The documentary Boy Interrupted chronicled the life of a teen with bipolar disorder who jumped to his death after his parents took him off lithium, and Over the Hills and Far Away followed a couple scouring Mongolia for a shaman to cure their son's autism. Two fiction films, starring Kevin Spacey and Chazz Palminteri, told the stories of psychiatrists negotiating their own mental breakdowns.

Some of the best films got inside the twisted minds of fighters. Bronson made theatre of the psychopathic exploits of a British prisoner, and the documentary Tyson wove the musings of the boxer into a portrait of an exquisitely vulnerable man. Not all films reached this standard. Brief Interviews with Hideous Men, about a female anthropologist studying how men view sex, did not retain the cranky charm of David Foster Wallace's novel. Adam, in which a schoolteacher falls for a young engineer with Asperger's syndrome, was stiff and preachy. Yet it won the Alfred P. Sloan prize for films depicting scientists.

"For a screenwriter it's always so much easier to tell a story about the perils of science than about incremental progress," said Jeffrey Nachmanoff, who co-wrote the 2004 global-warming thriller The Day After Tomorrow and who served on the Sloan prize jury. The festival was remarkably free of such sensationalism.

An unusually strong presence of science fiction included a coincidental pairing of movies about astronauts encountering their own cloned replacements. Although the Japanese The Clone Returns Home was rather slow, its British counterpart, Moon, directed by David Bowie's son Duncan Jones and starring Sam Rockwell and Kevin Spacey, was more entertaining. If one accepts their premise — that doctors will eventually be able to duplicate not just bodies but minds — these films raise questions about medical ethics and the origins of identity.

One astrophysicist expressed frustration that none of the 118 films at Sundance depicted an ordinary scientist at work, but not all agree. "I don't make such a distinction between pure science and science fiction," replied John Underkoffler, science adviser on the films Minority Report and Iron Man. "At their best films convey ideas, and the guise isn't so important."

  1. Jascha Hoffman is a writer based in New York.

02/19/2009

a joke

Science 13 February 2009:
Vol. 323. no. 5916, p. 877
DOI: 10.1126/science.323.5916.877b

Letters

LIFE IN SCIENCE:
No Restroom for the Weary

Our lab is in a historic building at the University of Tokyo. Unfortunately, in this case, the word "historic" is synonymous with "very old" and "shabby." The poor condition of the electric power supply makes our electroencephalography (EEG) experiments a challenge--the electric signals we obtain are contaminated with every sort of noise.

Figure 1
CREDIT: PETER HOEY
We decided to send a postdoc, Yosuke Morishima, on a journey in search of a good experimental room. Yosuke carried an EEG amplifier and monitor and a colleague wore an EEG electrode cap. They visited every room in the seven-story building, including those that belonged to other labs, and checked the noise level of the EEG. Finally, they found the best room for the experiment: the men's restroom on the east wing of the building. We invited a subject to the new experimental room and started an EEG experiment. The recording was fantastic--we could see beautiful brain signals. However, after running several experimental sessions, we began to receive complaints from people who visited the room for the purpose for which it was originally designed. Thus, our search for the ideal laboratory continues.

Katsuyuki Sakai
Department of Cognitive Neuroscience
University of Tokyo 7-3-1 Hongo
Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 113-0033, Japan
E-mail: ksakai@m.u-tokyo.ac.jp

01/28/2009

Culture clash in Chinese university: a response by Keming Cui

Correspondence

Nature 457, 379 (22 January 2009) | doi:10.1038/457379e; Published online 21 January 2009

Culture clash in Chinese university: a response

Keming Cui1

  1. College of Life Sciences, Peking University, Beijing 100871, People's Republic of China
    Email: ckm@pku.edu.cn

Sir

In your Editoral 'Culture clash in China' (Nature 456, 545–546; 2008), you incorrectly say that I am professor emeritus, having retired from the College of Life Sciences, Peking University, four years ago. In fact, I retired in February 2006 and do not have emeritus status. Neither did I retain my laboratory there in order for my associate professor to take it over formally as a way of maintaining my influence.

I have kept my laboratory running with the help of a grant from the National Natural Science Foundation of China (NSFC). When I applied to the NSFC, Peking University guaranteed my lab and equipment until I had completed the work. The associate professor you mention was a co-author on this grant application.

Although I did submit an online posting accusing Yi Rao, the dean of life sciences, of withdrawing the laboratory for use in other applications (http://tinyurl.com/8l4u9x), I have never proposed that the associate professor should take it over. My aim is that he should be able to use it to continue his research.

12/09/2008

zz Culture clash in China --崔饶之战上了science magazine了

Editorial

Nature 456, 545-546 (4 December 2008) | doi:10.1038/456545b; Published online 3 December 2008

Culture clash in China

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Abstract

An online row highlights the need for Chinese universities to fix their hiring policies.

In October, an online war broke out between Yi Rao, a neuroscientist and Peking University's dean of life sciences, and Keming Cui, a plant biologist and professor emeritus at the university who has a string of positions on academic and awards committees and editorial posts on Chinese journals to his name.

Cui retired from Peking University four years ago but kept his laboratory there. This year he tried to have his associate professor formally take over the lab. Such transfers of power are common in China, but they are also criticized as a way for powerful professors to hold lab space beyond their tenure. Rao refused to acknowledge the transfer of authority. Instead he planned to drastically cut the lab's size.

Rao, the first Peking University dean to be hired through an international search, says he wants to ensure that the university hires the best faculty members through appropriate evaluation. He also wants to ensure that qualified outsiders are considered and that an inbred academic system is avoided. Rao says that the associate professor will have a few years to prove himself before he is evaluated for promotion and to see whether he can keep the laboratory.

On 9 October, Cui began writing a string of entries in his blog, which became widely read when copied by other websites and the online bulletin boards of Peking University. Cui described Rao's action as belittling his field of plant anatomy because it was not a 'hot' area. He made a stand for basic science. The blog drew some sympathetic comments from students, who copied it to more widely read student blogs. Rao, whose own blog normally gets about 2,000 hits per entry, immediately posted his defence, which picked up 10,000 hits.

Newspapers hesitate to pick up such hot potatoes, so the debate devolved to the blogs. Although they offer a platform for such discussion, blogs also make irresponsible name-calling possible. After alleging that Rao was trying to cut off support for a discipline of science, Cui compared Rao's efforts to the activities of Trofim Lysenko — the Soviet 'state scientist' who in the 1940s used his close connections to the Soviet leadership to crush scientists who opposed his views.

Both scientists are in all likelihood doing what is natural to them to promote the next generation of scientists. The situation is further confused by Peking University's lack of clear guidelines on how to proceed in such situations, leaving new regulations set against old customs. When Rao took over as dean in September 2007, the university made it clear in writing that such hiring decisions would be his to make.

Deans and university presidents in China are watching to see how the situation is resolved. Will Cui, who worked at Peking University for more than 40 years, be able to raise public support and use his connections with senior colleagues to get his way? Or will Rao be able to stand his ground? It should, and looks as if it will, be the latter.

But further changes are needed. China and its universities now have the money to undertake proper recruitment exercises, and more universities should be seeking candidates beyond their walls and outside China's borders. They need clear, consistently applied guidelines on who has the authority to make those decisions. Of course, although a clear policy would be good, vesting that much power in one individual's hands, as Rao recognizes, requires caution. So regulations that check and make transparent the actions of those given decision-making power will also be needed.

11/06/2008

zz 姚毅答老崔

辗转地转一下,据说原文在姚毅的博客上,有兴趣的自己找出处吧。 

 

http://www.sciencenet.cn/blog/user_content.aspx?id=42993

 

贵阳出席全国生化和分子生物学大会期间,得知北大生命科学学院退休教授崔克明老师最近在网上发表几篇公开文章,提出意见和呼吁。其中有些问题涉及到对学院发展原则的误解,并希望全国科技工作者评判。据说,也有很多反应。因为崔老师明天就要出国探亲半年,而我今天傍晚才回北京,还因为国内以为北大不公开回答教授意见就可能有什么不可告人的隐情,所以,我也就公开回复。

 

崔老师的文章包括两个方面的问题,一是学院管理,二是崔老师退休后实验室的将来。我没有发现崔老师和我在原则上的差别,崔老师批判的也是我已经批判过的。我们的差别在于,具体如何实践,在现代如何选择,在现有条件下如何决定。我尽量理清一些主要问题,一一作答。如果遗漏,以后补充。

 

1)学院应该如何评判学科和实验室?崔老师也许没有时间看我发表的文章(例如科学网博客、或学院《科学文化》版)。其实,我的观点和崔老师一样,不赞成用SCI。我在文章里、在学院,多次调不能以发表文章的杂志引用率(SCI)来评判。我也不同意简单地以文章本身的引用率来评判文章。各个学科不同,没有简单的数字可以代替科学的评价。我介绍其他科学家的工作,都是说明其意义,不是SCI点数(我也不知道任何杂志的SCI点数)。我认为,各实验室的工作,应该由同行来评议,看它对本学科的意义。如果是应用学科,看应用效果。

 

2)学院绝大多数实验室都做基础研究,都是基础学科,所以谈不上赶尽杀绝础学科。学院资源有限,不可能同等支持所有学科。学科,如果确实有前景、有意义,有人、有能力,可以发展。但是不能因人设事,而且要有一定标准。我本人正好不是热门追求者。我在公开发表的访谈中、在上任的第一天,说过要做有长期影响的工作,也就不是一时热门的工作。我提倡做教育,不会得SCI,也不太可能在我任期中有外人可以看到的成果,我着眼于几十年出学生。学科也是一样,我认为,北大在保护生物学有一定基础,而这个学科对国家也重要,所以,我多次和保护生物学的老师交流,我们今年新聘的三位实验室负责人,其中一位是保护生物学。崔老师知道,从SCI说,保护生物学不是热门。支持保护生物学,不是为学院争得外界的,因为现时确有很多人在争SCI。但我在任期间,不准备让学院加入这个行列。我们应该做有意义的工作,试图有长远影响,而不赶热门。这个思想,应该和崔老师表达的也一致。

 

3)学院如何聘任PI。所PI,需要向不知道的读者解释:这是和教授头衔分开的一个身份,大意是独立的实验室负责人,有自己独立研究,独立经费,独立指导研究生等。

 

们学院新聘的PI,都需要有证据表明,确实能独立领导课题组,有较好的发展潜力。我们的目标是一些PI做出重要科学贡献,在国内、国际有竞争力。这也不是SCI为依据。实际上,我非常反感申请人写上SCI分数。我在美国、在北大招聘时,都拒绝过SCI高的人。我们并不是以SCI选择新PI,有两位SCI不高,但是我们觉得有科学潜力。虽然这个工作并不容易,最后是看成功率高低,并不可能100%正确。

 

新聘的PI需要得到进一步支持,才能在学术上发展,做出成就。并非已经成绩斐然,可以让学院获得荣誉。即使他们来以前有成就,学院今后评判的,也是他们来北大以后的成就。

 

崔老师提出,学院是否培养PI。我的意思是,我们当然培养研究生、培养博士后。他们如果有竞争力能成为PI,那就是培养了PI。但我认为,聘PI时必需从国际范围获得最佳人选,而不照顾内部某个候选人。这既不公平,也不利于学院发展。以前有些实验室内部培养了副教授,这些人有些不是作为独立研究人员培养的,而是作为终身助手。学院如果照顾内部人选晋格为PI,等于各实验室越权代替学院做决定,而没按照学院要求的严格标准来招聘。至少造成近亲繁殖,也不能排除有些教授为自己安排不退休而自选接班人。学院确立一般规则,不是针对某个实验室。

 

4)学院支持老师发展,包括支持以前提拔的副教授、非PI教授。但不能揠苗助长,不能改变标准,不是让他们做不称职的事。而是鼓励他们找到对自己、对学院都比较好、比较合适的出路。我上任不久和全体副教授开过会,讲明前景,如果他们能在几年内可以成为独立PI,很好。如果不行,他们应该考虑加入其他实验室,或者做他们最称职的工作。也就是说,人尽其才。我和崔老师实验室副教授说的,与此一致。

 

不能因以前实验室提拔,而今后高枕无忧。讲清楚不仅对学院负责,也是对副教授们负责。国内好的单位现在竞争性很强,如果不提醒年青的副教授们头脑清醒而奋起,那不是负责任的态度。

 

现在提拔副教授,与几十年前支持王选,在很多方面都没有可比性。如果崔老师(或其他老师),强烈推荐我们学院有哪个老师在学术潜力上是生物学的王选,用具体的学术判断来说明,我非常欢迎。

 

对于不能独立领导实验室的老师,改做教学、行政、或其他合适的工作,对个人、学院、学生,都合乎情理。对于现有老师,只要勤恳工作,学院就想办法安排合适的工作,并不准备开除。需要开除的,是少数长期不工作、不回国而有工资的员工。目前,不是北大或者学院对员工严厉,而更常出现员工要挟学校。对以前的员工,学院是和谐社会为主导,但有一定限度,虽然限度比较宽。进行的是渐进改革。对新聘的,是立即进入高要求的新体制,对以前遗留的问题积极并妥善解决,但不能为将来发展制造新的问题。

 

5对于崔老师说北大一些历史传统,我希望崔老师有时间能多写一些,我自己就喜欢看。院网站上,近几个月也登出许多回忆文章,从张景钺、陈阅增、沈同老师到我们生物系第一届毕业生、林学家郝景盛。

 

6)有传统不是继续支持一个实验室的充分理由。即使我这样比较喜欢谈传统的人,也认为,未来发展潜力是确定是否支持一个实验室的标准。

 

学科可以有变化。不可能一个学院所有时候支持每个学科,也不可能支持每个以前支持过的学科。需要依据多个因素加以选择,如果说,两次全国有关学术大会上做了此报告,均收到广泛欢迎,后被发表在宁夏大学学报上这样的叙述,说服力不够强。

 

至于学院选择学科和李森科有什么关系,我没能跟上崔老师的思路。李森科以伪科学压制真科学;我们是讨论老师退休了,在什么情况下还能保持相关实验室,好像差别很大。一个规模有限的学院缺少一个学科,不可能判学科死刑。一个实验室能和国家的未来关的,也不太多。

 

7)我没说过聘任PI要国际评审,而是要有国际竞争力。在学术上要有潜力。起步的PI并不是学术最终阶段。成为PI几年后需要进行国际评审,要求比较其学术水平。用国际评审,一是国际上专家多,二是避免国内用SCI。如果崔老师认为有论在国内还是在国际上都是数一数二的人,而且同行也这么认为,学院当然支持。如果原来实验室数一数二,但是以后没有人选可以做到,情况就不同。诺贝尔奖得主的博士后到我们北大申请工作,我们也拒绝过。一视同仁。

 

8)我鼓励退休老师为学院发展献计献策、提意见和建议。学院对退休老师非常宽容,但不可能无限制。对自律的老师也不公平。不止一个老师退休多年后继续有实验室,而水电费交不出。退休老师遗留的法律问题,学院和我得花时间解决。退休老师自我返聘,有可能是好心,但也带来问题比如占用空间资源、耽误学生。如果大家可以自我返聘,退休制度就难以执行。学院要避免一些后遗症。比如,如果某个老师违规超龄招研究生,退休时学生还有56年才毕业,退休老师是否个个有精力、有充分的条件带好研究生?学院是否要考虑学生利益?所以学院不能常规性热心支持退休老师自我返聘。这是讨论退休老师的一般性问题,不是特指崔老师。崔老师说的具体补贴,没有人和我说过。接班师的问题,我说的原则,适用于所有对实验室。我公开说过,希望上面也澄清了。

 

9)崔老师文章里面,有些是误解了以后的推论,我就不解释。比如,很多次提到高影响因子。因为我不提倡简单的高影响因子,推论我也多半同意,就不再重复。崔老师文章有些话,不是我的原话,有些归于我的观点,不是我的观点,我也不讨论。我的观点比较明确,而且也容易查到。

 

10 有些事情和实验室、学科无关,我不讨论。只是有句话,崔老师意思我上任后,学院改变了传统而要叫官职,要称我为院长。这离事实不太近。我上任第一天就让学生不要叫院长。我后来也时不时纠正。我本人在这方面比较极端:我从来没有制过名片,不管是以前还是现在;我对很多人,也不呼其官职。如果崔老师到一楼问一下,可以知道学院行政人员没人叫我院长。

 

11 我到任后,推辞过老师和退休老师约谈。崔老师如果事先要澄清或者讨论,也没问题。现在事情公开,不是由于内部不能讨论。对于北大民主、自由传统,我认为,如果把握场合不合适,可能进入误区。1950年代中国讨论大民主小民主的混淆,看来现在还没结束。美国大学不在公开场所讨论人事,也因场合之分。学校、专业机构的具体人事、经费支持,一般不适合公众广泛讨论。在世界各国都一样。另外,我第一次和学院教授见面时说过,我绝对不会在学院发脾气。这次也是一样。所以,请崔老师放心,今后交流无需顾忌。

 

12 我愿意具体了解是否有以前没有交流、不清楚的情况。就此事,我不会因为公开了有压力,就特别迁就、或者反弹。

 

学院原则不变,我们继续努力。

 

如果崔老师愿意面谈,或者出国后愿电话联系,请约时间。

 

饶毅

 

20081016

 

附崔老师的博客文章。

 

http://blog.51xuewen.com/blog/H_aShow.aspx?blog=cuikm&ID=4393

 

2008-10-9 21:01:39

 

大学和科研单位的各级领导应该成为伯乐,而不应满足于当赛马场上的裁判

 

按我的理解,赛马场的裁判只要有一颗公平的心,用好精确的计时器就行,无论谁的马,只要第一个冲过终点线就是第一,但伯乐就不同了,他要在马厩中或牧马场中从众多的不知名的,甚至是小马驹中挑选出未来有可能在赛场上获得冠军的马匹。二者相比前者就容易多了,后者风险很大,而且不可能立竿见影,很快得到突出成获得领导赏识,显示自己的天才。所以现在咱们大学和科研单位的众多领导中都在争当裁判,而不愿意当伯乐。你要当教授,当PI,我就拿你发表论文的影响因子和篇数比,高的就上,低一点就下,只要当上就有实验室补贴,当不上就靠边站,你看有多公平。而且我不用培养,全世界招聘,这样下来我单位很快就是世界第一,谁比得了。可是这样下来,我们的大学还有自己的传统吗?所有小马驹都不要,都赶走,等你在别处成长为冠军后我再聘回来。可是你想过没有,等他成为冠军后,想到你当年的冷酷无情,还能回来吗,除非他是那种有奶就是娘的人。再者,如果全国全世界的单位都这样做,宝马良驹还有出头之日吗。所有影响因子高的文章都是热门领域的,所有热门都是从冷门来的,只有把冷门变成热门的人才是站在这个领域最前沿的人,跟在后边的也可以发表影响因子很高的文章,但绝对没有原始创新,只是给人家的原始创新增加点证据。据说北大高薪聘来的生命科学院院长饶毅教授就在努力成为这样的裁判,甚至他还要凭自己的智慧决定哪个学科陈古落后而将之淘汰。可是据我所知还没听说历史上哪个学科被淘汰了,而是向前发展变化了,小心走了当年苏联李森科的老路。

 

http://www.51xuewen.com/blog/B_Ashow.aspx?blog=cuikm&id=4410

 

2008-10-10 16:09:19

 

评饶毅教授的不培PI”大学学院管理模式

 

说(对不起,又不是亲耳听到,不过我也没有资格听到),北大生命科学学院院长饶教授公开讲,生命科学学院不培养PI(当然也就不培养教授,当然,也就不培养院士)。请问,北大是大学还是工厂(即使工厂也要研究开发自己的创新产品),这样的北大还能培养出王选吗?如果当年的北大也像饶教授这样管理,早在上世纪60-70年代王选就会被赶出北大,可能现在我们还在使用美国人或英国人开发的中文系统。请问,哪个原始创新一开始就被专家权威认可过,不被认可,能在引用率高的杂志上发表吗?达尔文的进化论提出时遭到的是咒骂和批判(可能也是一种高引用率),如果饶教授在当时敢聘用他吗?Haberlandt提出细胞潜在全能性学说(可以说没有此学说就没有今天的克隆技术,生物技术)时连直接实验证据都没有,只发表在一个小城镇的杂志上,按今天的标准,影响因子能高吗?按饶教授的标准能聘用他吗?第一个提出遗传基因理论的孟德尔就更得被扫地出门了。这样下来不用说培养出诺贝尔奖得主,就是国家自然科学一二等奖得主也不可能。因为这些奖励不是奖那些影响因子高的文章,而是奖那些系统研究取得原始创新成果的项目。所谓创新,就是与众不同,甚至是反潮流的,而且创新性越大,得到大多数潮流派认可的可能性越小,所以说真理往往在少数人手里这就是为什么国家自然科学基金要注意支持那些非共识项目的道理。如果按饶教授的管理办法,不仅那些刚起步的原始创新项目的研究者将被赶出北大生命科学学院,就是那些已得到大多数国际同行认可,但还没有到达顶峰成为新热门的项目也将被扫地出门,或者被扼杀在摇篮中或苗圃中。如果做先进经验推广到全北大,乃至全中国,结果可想而知。

 

2008-10-10 21:45:24

 

http://www.51xuewen.com/blog/B_Ashow.aspx?blog=cuikm&id=4413

 

赛马场裁判?式领导下的PI们、教授们

 

在前述赛马场裁判式的领导下,PI们,博导们就要努力多发表高影响因子的论文,否则就有被淘汰的危险,为了达到多发、快发高影响因子论文的目的,提高效率,有的就把研究生(硕士和博士)当成实验员、打工仔使用,给他们安排一个个实验,实验完了把结果交给老板(研究生们通常这样称呼他们的导师),由老板写论文。因为对教授们来说自己写论文比修改学生的论文容易得多,效率高得多。而且导师可以根据学生的表现和毕业的需要安排谁当第一作者。结果是努力做实验的学生也能及时毕业,好像也没意见。

 

但是这就出现一个问题,这样培养出来的博士生自己不能发现问题,提出研究课题,分析问题和解决问题,更不会写论文,这还是合格的博士生吗?这只是在培养高效率的实验员、高级打工仔。这样下去就毁了一代人,断送了科研事业。

 

我想问一下,这样的改革适合国家的长远利益吗?救救我们的大学!!

 

http://www.51xuewen.com/blog/B_aShow.aspx?blog=cuikm&ID=4442

 

2008-10-11 20:16:57

 

饶毅院长,刀下留人,请勿将基础学科赶尽杀绝

 

在我的前文中已经评论了饶毅教授在北大生科院的一些改革措施。在此,在全国科学工作者面前,以一个退休老教授的名义,也代表我的老师和我的是兄弟们(虽然没有征得他们的同意,但我想我能代表他们),如果我的师爷在天有灵的话,也会同意我代表他,请求饶毅院长刀下留人,请勿把基础学科赶尽杀绝。虽然北大校长许智宏是我的师兄,但我不想通过他的权利求你,而在这里与你摆事实讲道理,请全国科技工作者做评判。下面是我们实验室的简介:

 

木本植物发育生物学实验室

 

木本植物发育生物学实验室是张景钺教授1932年回国后被聘北京大学生物学系植物学教授后创立的,是我国第一个开展植物形态学研究的实验室。张教授是我国植物学的奠基人之一,中国科学院生物学部委员(即现在的中科院院士),为我国植物学各分支学科培养了第一代学术带头人,如古植物学的徐仁院士、植物分类学的吴征益院士、植物胚胎学的王伏雄院士、植物解剖学的李正理教授等都是他利用本实验室培养的学生。

 

李正理教授是本实验室的第二代负责人, 1957年从美国回国后即进入本实验室工作,开始了形态发生的研究,是我国最早开展此方面研究的植物学家之一,同时还开展了大量解剖学研究,为我国的植物形态学,特别是植物解剖学的发展做出了开拓性的贡献,培养的学生遍布植物形态学的各领域,并大多数已成为这些领域的学术带头人,如现北大校长许智宏院士、原西北大学生物系主任胡正海教授、原兰州大学生物系主任王勋陵教授和原杭州大学生物系主任余象煜教授等都是他利用本实验室培养的学生。

 

实验室现在的负责人崔克明教授是李正理教授的学生,自1978开始,便在李正理教授指导下从事植物剥皮再生的解剖学研究工作。 1989年从瑞典农业大学林学院森林遗传与植物生理学系做访问学者回国后,开始与从事生物化学和分子生物学研究的老师合作,将剥皮再生机理的研究逐步深入到生理学、生物化学和分子生物学,并将研究范围逐步扩展到形成层活动周期、休眠机理和发育过程中,特别是木质部细胞分化过程中的细胞程序死亡,并涉及了雌雄异株树木的性别决定机理、银杏胚珠发育等木本植物发育生物学的诸多领域。

 

目前,实验室的研究方向主要有:

 

1树木剥皮再生过程中形成层细胞的发生、未成熟木质部细胞的脱分化、转分化和再分化机理。

 

2.形成层活动周期的研究(活动式样、内源植物激素变化、基因表达变化的研究等)

 

3.木质部细胞分化机理(细胞程序死亡、次生壁建成)

 

4.杜仲的性别决定

 

改革开放以来,特别是获得国家985项目支持以来,学校和院里没给过一分钱的支持,是我们靠实力从国家基金委申请到了近二十个的面上基金,在此我对他们的支持表示衷心的感谢。1999年又应原中国林科院院长江泽慧教授的邀请参加了我国林学的第一个973项目,这可是我们实验室的救命钱,我在许多场合都说过对江教授的感激之情。此项目结束后我们又有幸申请到了一个自然科学基金林学重点项目,真是又一次救了我们实验室的命。但谁知这只是延缓了一下死刑的来临。为什么我们能连续得到国家自然科学基金的资助,而且不是像许多人那样挤进973项目,而是应邀参加,并担任一个课题的负责人呢?决不是靠什么关系,因为像我这种北大的教授,常被亲友们戏称为书呆子,不食人间烟火的另类,就是对关系学一窍不通,更不知后门在哪里,怎么走。就是靠我们实验室的坚实工作,一步步从最基础的植物形态解剖学,逐步扩展吸收进植物生理学、植物生物化学、植物分子生物学,从不随波逐流,而是坚定的走自己的路,我们是植物学专业,但我们是以树木为材料,特别是主要以我国特有的,也是具有重要经济价值的杜仲为材料,抓住从生产中来的课题--杜仲剥皮再生的机理进行研究,我们把国内外认为不可能的事一步步变成了现实,从形态解剖学机理到生理学、生物化学机理,再到分子生物学机理,文章也由主要在国内《植物学报》上发表逐步发展到在国际刊物上发表,已连续在去年的影响因子为3.91杂志上发表了四篇,其中有一篇要不是在复审时赶上暑假换了评审人而遭到无理刁难,就在一去年影响因子6以上的杂志上发表了。诸位可知,我们研究的是林学的基础理论,而在SCI录的杂志里林学中影响因子最高的杂志,其影响因子才2多点不到3。因为我们的研究是地地道道自己的课题,许多都是原来国际上都认为是不可能的生物学现象,被我们证明是可能的了,因此都是原始创新,这要得到国际同行的认可有多难大家是知道的,经过我们多年的努力,反复宣传,现在总算得到一些在木材形成研究领域中很牛的大家的认可,我们正在把我们的一个最新的发现一再补充实验,争取发到影响因子10以上的杂志上发表。因为我已退休,但我的重点基项目还没完,学生也没毕业完,我还在自己返聘自己(学校和院里都不给我一分钱的返聘费,是从我的基金劳务费和原来973项目结余的一点经费中支出,原来因我有没毕业的研究生院里还给一点,为研究生讲课也还给一点,但暑假中有关负责人告诉我,我的研究生是延期的,不能再给返聘补贴,前面已多给我一年,院里要扣回,以后如果还愿意给研究生开课可以开,但不是必修课,院里不再给返聘补贴钱。最近因听说,实验室要交面积费,而且数目巨大,但是每年院里给每个PI10万元的补贴,可用于交实验室面积费,也可购买仪器,我们实验室准备接我班的一名副教授找到饶院长(按照北大的传统,从不称呼官职,现在这一传统也在变化,我也只好从众)谈话,饶院长告诉他,我已退休,已不是PIPI补贴不能给,他还不是PI,当然更不能给此补贴,实验室使用面积费必须交,不然就交回实验室,不管你历史多悠久,也不管你在国内是不是第一,只有拿到国际上评,达到国际领先才能保留。至于我们实验室的这位副教授,饶院长给了两条出路,一是到别的教授名下当助手(据我院另一位副教授博导告诉我,饶院长早已明确我们院不培养PI现在的助手不可能再当PI),要想成PI,一是现在拿到国际上评审,如果是国际领先就可当PI,否……饶院长没明确说,但我猜想就是走人)。这不就是对我们实验室下了封杀令吗,连缓期都没有。

 

们实验室在植物形态解剖学领域无论在国内还是在国际上都是数一数二的,而且随着发育生物学的发展,这一基础所占有的地位越来越重要,我们这里毕业的博士生就因为这方面基础好被美加等国重要实验室的青睐,很容易联系到博士后的位子。现在院里许多实验室的切片都到我们实验室做,切片请我们看。当然现在他们因经费充足,纷纷购买此方面仪器,他们多数都误以为只要有了仪器,就像分子生物学试验那样能做好。岂不知,这是个手工活,照书本是做不好的,看片子就更要有丰富的经验才能变认清楚。所以前年院研究生会应研究生的要求请我给研究生讲怎么制片,我就明确告诉他们,我要讲不讲切片的具体方法,就讲植物形态学在现代生命科学中的地位,后来我又在两次全国有关学术大会上做了此报告,均收到广泛欢迎,后被发表在宁夏大学学报上(见附件)。在北大生科院像我们这样的基础学科实验室本来有好几个,现在就剩这一个了(我们为此付出的辛劳,只有我的老师和师兄弟知道)。因此我要在此大声疾呼:饶院长,刀下留人,不要将基础学科赶尽杀绝,我还要向全国的科技领导者和工作者疾呼:为了国家的未来,救救基础学科!!

09/26/2008

zz 史记, 70后列传 from 蝈蝈

史记, 70后列传


始从文,廿六乃成,负债十万余。觅生计,十载无休,披星戴月秉烛达旦,终蓄十万。不足建屋,遂投于股市,翌年仅余十千,抑郁成疾。医保曰:不符大病之条例,拒赔。乃入院,无药可治。友甚怜之,赊三鹿一包,饮之,卒
07/31/2008

zz Communix系统简史

某人blog不支持"blog it"功能,于是只好手动进行盗链行为。引用如下:

Communix操作系统最早是两个德国人Marx和Engles开发的(称为Communix基础版,或Co
mmunix 1.0和2.0),遵守GPL,它的早期支持者曾经先后组织过两个国际讨论区。

当时少数先进的国家都使用微软的Windows,其他的绝大多数国家要么用DOS,要么作为
受Windows主机控制的远程终端,相比之下,Communix支持的机子很少,但移植Communi
x的努力一直就没停止过。最早是以法国为主的一些人在巴黎、里昂等地移植过,但失败
了。此后Communix分成两条路发展,一条是删除一些不兼容的代码,把Communix移植到
Windows运行;反对微软的另一批人在俄国著名程序员Lenin的领导下,在俄国移植Comm
unix获得成功(第一次发行时称为俄版Communix beta或Communix 3.0beta),一度做到
15个主节点、20多个子节点的大规模并行Cluster,并影响到亚洲、东欧、拉美等一些地
方。


一个小插曲:在Lenin之后,俄版Communix项目的两个CEO对Communix 3.0正式版出现了
意见分歧。占多数的Stalin重视系统安全和运行效率,认为需要在已有的基础上继续优
化俄版Communix代码;占少数的Trotsky认为要把微软干掉,因此必须支持更多的硬件,
提供更多的功能。这次分歧以Trotsky失败告终。Trotsky和他的团队后来开发了自己的
Communix(称为托版Communix或Communix 4.0),但除了在斯里兰卡短暂地装过一段时
间以外,都是小用户。这些用户又加入了很多自己的东西,且互不统一,Trotsky死后没
人整理,因此托版Communix非常乱。而由Stalin的团队打造的Communix 3.0正式版因为
过于注重系统安全和效率,导致界面不够友好,娱乐功能少,不能及时更新一些新功能
。Stalin的继任者由一个极端走向另一个极端,他们片面追求漂亮界面和娱乐功能,甚
至干脆向微软购买这些功能,放弃了系统安全和效率,更不对代码作任何优化,导致系
统经常当机和被黑客入侵,最后不得不改装Windows(据说负责洽谈这次改装项目的经理
Yeltsin还拿了不少回扣).


在俄国成功移植Communix的消息也鼓舞着中国的Communix爱好者们,但早期的努力都不
成功。一个姓毛的人说,俄版Communix光是汉化还不行,因为我们的硬件太旧了,短期
内也不可能更新,所以必须为我们自己的硬件改写一部分底层代码。这种办法最后成功
了,成为低配置计算机移植Communix的精典范例而载入史册。毛还反对俄版Communix晚
期的一些修改,认为这是向微软投降。为了及时清理Communix队伍内部的微软代理人,
他发动广大用户学Communix和写Communix,打造一个“六亿神州皆Hacker”的毛版Comm
unix。他的主张遭到开发团队的反对,最后无果而终,但影响持续至今。如今,一个精
通毛版Communix的程序员往往被看作是危险的黑客,而那些拿了很多认证的Communix程
序员都在跟微软学接轨。但是,代码要开源,人民要编程是无法扭转的世界潮流。今天
,国内外仍有不少毛版Communix支持者。曾有人说尼泊尔的毛版Communix是“盗版”,
这就连GPL的基本常识都不顾,堕落到微软版权的泥坑里去了。

07/25/2008

我也转载 joke

交管局又发通知了

北京市交通管理局紧急通知:7月20日实行单双号限行后车流量大幅下降,但是出行人流量不降反升,公共交通压力加大。为此,交管局决定,从7月25日起,全市六环以内,市民实行单双眼皮限行措施,单眼皮单日出行,双眼皮双日出行,一单一双只能夜晚0~3点出行,。望广大市民安排 出行时间。

注: 对戴墨镜出行的按故意遮挡号牌处罚!

05/31/2008

zz 继续转载 joke

Quote:
 

Twelve Things You Should Never Tell Your Mother

 

1. You've had sex.

2. You’ve had sex in her bed.

3. Your mother-in-law is a better cook.

4. You aren't wearing clean underwear.

5. You aren't wearing any underwear.

6. You're spending Thanksgiving with your in-laws.

7. You used to steal money from her purse.

8. You used to steal Xanax from her purse.

9. You lied about the dog breaking her Waterford vase in 1988.

10. You don't believe in marriage.

11. Your new boyfriend is married.

12. You used to wish she was more like Mrs. Brady.

05/30/2008

talk about 北图旧事

题目是我加的,东西是我偷的,连到底是谁写的都不清楚,随便看着玩吧。
 
Quote:
 
老姜整理潭文武的材料很有点学术考据的味道,佩服。潭和潭当政时期的北.图,在北.图正史之外的历史中,应该是非常有特点的。

潭的血.统论、出.身论在当时那个黑白颠倒的时代,给国..家和民..族带来了深重的灾难,给无数家庭和个人造成了难以弥补的伤害,可以说是带着浓浓的血腥。虽然在他的《赤子白话》中潭做了狡辩,称被人利用,但再好的文采也掩盖不了血写的事实,潭的话当时可能被人利用了,但仍难逃始作俑者的责任。潭来北.图也是因为在当年八酒后,清理太..子.党为主的康-华,潭才躲到北.图。在当时也可以说一直到现在,我都非常喜欢潭的口才和文采,非常有气势,排比句多,对仗工整,比喻贴切,对问题的看法一针见血,分析又深入浅出,引用典故信手拈来,整个文章既大气又不失幽默。当年在嘉言堂全体员工大会讲话时的情景至今仍历历在目,潭在台上慷慨激昂,台下千人鸦雀无声。潭的能力有目共睹,北.图行政干部至今无出其右,尤其是潭来北.图前有一些市场的经历,给当时与世隔绝的北.图带来了不一样的思维方式,对北.图人思想上的冲击非常大,至今当年潭和他的改.革的故事在北.图员工中仍有流传。但潭性格中的主流还是一个投机的政.客,喜欢把权.力当游戏,虽然他一直以自己的父辈革命家为榜样,但他骨子里缺少真正的信仰和真诚,这是他和那些榜样永远无法逾越的鸿沟。潭在北.图历史上应该是一个毁誉参半的角色,给北.图带来改革清风的同时也让大家见识了权.力的冷漠和无情。潭在北.图的改革差点就促使他走上更高的领导岗位。从北.图出来后,他去了文化-部办公0厅当主任,记得当年他走时,行政楼有人与他洒泪而别,也有人暗地里拍手称快。此后部里一直盛传潭会荣升副部-长,但终究没有实现,最后在遗老遗少的故宫走完了他的仕途,倒很有点象征性。作为高..官的后代,他受到了良好的教育,能力出类拔萃;作为革..命家的后代,他充满了斗争革新精神;作为农民当..权者的后代,他一直摆脱不了封建专制思想的余孽。今天看来,缺少人文精神,是他和那个时代的最大缺憾。

最后非常值得一提的是潭的一双女儿很漂亮很有灵气,让当年正值情窦初开的图有其表,每每看到其中一个,就激动得不得了,两眼贼亮,猛咽口水。我记得当时还经常教育他,年轻人,不要那么浮躁,要稳住,你看我,只有一下见到两个,才会有那么多口水地。
04/12/2008

ytht史 by ooj

发信人: babecue (向来痴), 信区: YTHT
标  题: ooj的一塌糊涂史(1)
发信站: 一塌糊涂 BBS (Wed Apr 21 23:09:34 2004), 本站(ytht.net)
   ooj的一塌糊涂史
   现在由我来说说ooj同学跟一塌糊涂这个BBS的事情。之所以由我来说,主要原因是我是ooj的马甲,等我说完了,ooj还要点评,他点评的目的是想实践自己的一套BBS历史书写理论,如果他自己跟这儿自说自话很容易被认为是有精神分裂倾向,至少也是自卖自夸。另外一个原因是,虽然我是个马甲,但是却也是一塌糊涂上一个独立的存在,由我来替ooj讲他的事情,可能比较能保持超然的态度。大家就当是我对ooj进行了一次访问,写出来的算是口述史的资料吧。
   我首先要谈一下选取ooj这个样本来记录的一些特点。ooj这个id在一塌糊涂上可以算是非常老,从理论上讲他的糊涂经历应该非常丰富(其实也许从下面的实践中看,并没有大家想的丰富)。而一塌糊涂对于ooj而言几乎是第一个BBS,也可能是他经历的唯一一个BBS。这样,ooj既不像其他一些糊涂上的老id那样在有糊涂之前就已经拥有了丰富的BBS经验,又不像稍后的一些id那样同时拥有数个不同BBS的经验。总之ooj属于那种从一塌糊涂开始接触BBS,一点一点学着人家灌水,后来慢慢长大,最后变老,又从来不曾离开过这里的id。跟ooj经历差不多的id确实有一批,但是显然不具有代表性。不过好在ooj是个不断成长的人,他的经历差不多在每个阶段都能代表一些人,这样,如果将他拆开看的话,代表性又大了一些。如此,用ooj作样本的好处就在于不间断性和与时俱进。ooj的另外一个特点是比较平民化,如前所言,他几乎没有除了糊涂之外的BBS经历,再加上他的性格比较怕事,所以从一开始到现在,他几乎没有进入过糊涂的管理核心(别看他当过什么什么的,其实他都干不好,也没好好干过),也没有影响过糊涂的发展,包括跟他很相熟的一群朋友也几乎没有这样的本事,大概是物以类聚的原因。这样,ooj的平民气质就非常的强了,我觉得翻起他的事来,会让人有与看到本版目前为止出现的各种历史不一样的感觉,因为他在很长一段时间里面与糊涂上耀眼的"明星"牛人们都没有交流,他觉得那些人是彼岸的仙人。或者你反对这个观点,认为他至少现在也是个老家伙,不再具备平民性。这个我也同意,但是我前面不是说了嘛,他至少也是在前面的大部分时间里很小人物的,如果说后来让人觉得有点不同,只是因为他有点老了,而且又对一塌糊涂有点莫名其妙的深厚感情。ooj这个id的另外一个特点是不关心政治,这样他错过了大多数的糊涂政治风波,这真是个大遗憾,用他来写站史恐怕会遗漏很多重要事件。不过,我觉得没有人能经历所有"应该"经历的事情,那有些不完整也是正常的,要是他一个人都把话说完了,让别人还说什么啊?YTHT版不如关了算了。倒是他越经历的不全面,越给其他网友留下了空间。不论如何,我觉得总体而言,用ooj来写还是优点多于缺点的。再怎么说用他自己的话讲,他是四年多以来除了吃饭、睡觉,活动最多的地方就是一塌糊涂,大概占了所有清醒时间的四分之一。就这一点我觉得就够独特了,所以我还是选他来写。
   
   接着,在正式开写之前,我要说一下我这次的叙事特点。在叙述过程中我仍然采用第一人称的方式,就是表示我就是ooj,因为老用他长他短的,我觉得不方便,而且这么写能让大家多点亲历感。还有,由于这次的重点是ooj和一塌糊涂,而不是另外的,所以在叙述过程中很多ooj熟悉的朋友的id不会一一列出,他们在一起的故事也不详细描述;但是又不能总不提其他id,那样就会架空历史,所以我还是会提到一些特别的id,这些是和ooj的糊涂感受相关的重要部分;既然我会提到id,而我又不能保证绝对中立(因为我总要受到ooj的影响),所以必然会对一些id有点评论,这只能代表我对ooj的想法的揣测,如果大家有不同看法,可以直接跟ooj交流,骂他也可以。
   废话一箩筐,交待差不多了吧,ooj登场--
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发信人: babecue (向来痴), 信区: YTHT
标  题: ooj的一塌糊涂史(2)
发信站: 一塌糊涂 BBS (Wed Apr 21 23:13:10 2004), 本站(ytht.net)
       初入糊涂--我的1999·2000
   这个小标题是我顺手从aprildy的个人史的题目里面偷来的,我觉得很有气势,感觉就像武侠小说一样,特能吸引读者眼球,于是就建议在给我写个人史的时候开始一定要用这个标题。不过老实讲,我上刚上BBS那会儿,真是像打网游刚入场的感觉——新奇、陌生而且羞涩。
   1999年的时候,我刚上网,确切的说我第一次接触网络是在1998年12月的某天晚上。是那天本来很重要,可是我忘了,幸好跟这次的主题无关,跟这次主题有关的是ooj这个id的诞生,这个id就是在那次上网诞生的,虽然那时还没有YTHT。不过这个ooj是在263申请的信箱,还是跟BBS没关系,这段省略。我对BBS有一种传奇式的向往,因为听说有个水木清华,那个世界是和我日常枯燥无味的经验所不同的。于是我磕磕绊绊地用www闯入了水木清华,不懂完全不懂,注册帐号是1999年4月8号的事情了。中间那段时间里面我勉强学会了用windows的telnet方式登录水木还有中科院的曙光BBS。有一个例子可以说明我多么外行。有一次在水木看到有好多人在re一个标题,大概是"水母为什么……了?"省略号表示我完全记不住那个主题本身了,但是水母给我留下了极深的印象,因为我发现我完全不知道何谓"水母",难道不是那种软体动物吗。于是我发了我在BBS上的第一篇贴,我在那个标题下re了一篇"什么是水母啊?"。幸好那时候我记性不好,也不会认BBS上的路,很快我就找不到那个版了,自然也看不到各位网友对我的鄙视。我是在很久以后才想起来这件事有多汗颜的。我对BBS的理解基本停留在这个程度,直到YTHT开站。
   我不甚了解北大的BBS发展历程,强烈的北大型自大情绪让我对北大没有一个类似"水母"的东西感到不满,至于为什么我当时没有考查北大BBS的历史,现在想起来很怪异,看来当年还不是读历史的,历史敏感性不强。后来在某天,我从同学那里得知北大开了个BBS就非常积极地去注册帐号。这个某天我后来清楚的知道是1999年9月17号22点20分43秒。那时我在干什么呢?大四刚刚开学,无聊的要死,已经不用系里的公共机房上网了,改在办公室上网玩了。BBS真是个好东西,同学楼上楼下可以在BBS上聊天,这样就可以在oicq之外随时找到同学,要吃饭喝酒什么的,BBS就可以解决时间安排问题,而不需要跑腿或者打传呼。但是也仅此而已,我很少会跑去系版以外的地方,那时候糊涂上人很少,我也就只知道跟自己的三几个同学灌点小水,虽然经常有师兄级人物招引一些大水车来系版灌水,但是我好像都没赶上。没办法,那时候没有灌水的概念。印象中那时候BBS唯一一个娱乐的功能,就是有个同学每天注册几个新帐号(后来知道叫马甲),跑到系版来叫嚣,让我很是古怪,因为每个不认识的id似乎都认识我,致使我莫名其妙的很兴奋。不过这种花招玩不了两天,我很快就学会看ip认人了,所以BBS的趣味性就这样再一次被自己剥夺了。
   不过后来又有认马甲的游戏玩了,那是因为出现了162.105.16.253的穿梭,我对这个可是记得很清,着实具有趣味性,真正体会到了"穿上马甲我就不认识你了"的戏剧效果。有关这个穿梭的事情,我是不大清楚的,而且我用的少,似乎就是你babecue用的多一些,也没见你整出来什么事。反正我的马甲都是蹦出来吓唬人,没人理我的话,我很快就自己招了,所以穿梭对我用处不大。不过这个16.253的穿梭对糊涂的意义似乎很中大,但是我没法多说,一个是它的意义怎样重大,我是后来才听说的,而且由于我的政治敏感性很差,所以对这类事情一直是一知半解。如果你们想知道多点,不妨去问问当事人,恐怕大部分现在还都在糊涂的某个角落里活动着。
   不说这个穿梭事件了,我还是讲讲这段时间里面其他一些对我的一塌糊涂认识比较有意义的事情吧。下面说的是我第一次知道关于报告的事情。首先要声明,这件事发生的时候我还不知道什么是报告,而且当时我也没把它当作报告来对待,而是当作某几个人的傻事。事情是这样的,我的两个同学,确切地说是一个叫devilghost的id(还有一个家伙的id我忘了,他一直没怎么沉迷过BBS),某天晚上(这个某天应该是在2000年7月之前,因为那时我们还没毕业(本科)),这家伙在BBS上叫我喝酒,并且表示有几个神秘人物会和我们一起。我表示不可思议,他们怎么能代替我约请陌生人一起喝酒呢?!于是我的害羞本色发挥了作用,我表示坚决不参加。接着就是他们两个人踢开我办公室的门要拉我去,说是10点钟在南门见面,对方已经从计算中心(未明湖那个老计算中心)出发了,我立场坚定,并且表示他们会为他们的傻行为后悔的。结果他们不听劝阻,非常兴奋地冲出了地学楼。我照样傻乎乎地在BBS上发无聊的呆。半个小时过去了……我的呼机叫了,信息内容是devilghost让我立即到旺福楼去帮他们吃东西,我以为他是诓我去见陌生人,没想到在打电话证实以后,果然是我的寓言实现了,他们没有跟对方对上暗号……我赶到旺福楼,看到这两个哥们儿尴尬地对着一桌子菜冲我傻笑,于是我毫不客气地边吃边数落他们的愚蠢行为。这可能是我们三个人在糊涂上的第一次报告经历,就这样以失败告终。这次事件带给大家的影响是不同的。我在大约半年后开始频繁出没于围绕糊涂展开的各种名义的报告,而devilghost从此再也不提参与报告的事情。尽管他在这之后还带着老婆一起去帝国版找人打帝国,并且多次被bigbirdliu要求报告,但是这些永远都没有发生过。也许这就叫做第一次给人带来的阴影吧。
   这个时期里面,不得不提的还有一件事情也是跟报告有关的,不过大多数人喜欢把那次叫作站庆,我却认为那件事本质上还是一次报告,谁让糊涂早期的所有活动都非要跟吃喝挂上钩呢。这就是那次周年站庆了。那天以我的闭塞竟然也在糊涂上看到了关于站庆的消息,并且知道很多人会出席。但是我毫不犹豫地认为,这件事是跟我无关的。之后看到一些关于站庆报告的文章,让我非常心动,很懊悔居然没有去偷窥一下。在这里我要表示自己观念里的一些混淆,我记性不好,加上当时对糊涂的水情实在不了解,所以我总是将peg写的"轻烟散如武侯家"那次报告和站庆弄混。大概是因为都是在武侯吃饭,而我对他们各种常规性的报告早就看得眼花缭乱了,所以分不清。总之那一年多中没有参与过任何报告是我初入江湖的一种状态,尽管我经常看到某某人写的见到某某人的情形,觉得非常有趣,但是始终觉得他们跟我不是一个世界的人,他们像天上的鸟儿一样潇洒,而我始终都是个不会走入传奇的小人物。那时我也没有想到报告对于早期糊涂的作用那么大,一个人一旦真正涉足报告圈,你跟糊涂的关系就会加速发展起来,直到不能自拔……这个后面再说,现在再说两件件1999到2000间的事情,是和糊涂的站务有关的。那个时候我有两次参与非系版的讨论,一次是刚开站的时候关于站名的讨论,就是这个"一塌糊涂"合适不合适,我忘掉是在哪个版(不是忘,那时除了认识系版,别的版连名字都没注意过)很正经的发了一篇大约三四行的意见,表示我同意使用一塌糊涂这个名字,这个印象很深刻。另外一件事情是关于站务Sebastian的弹劾案,竟然有人连我都发动出去表示抗议了,其实我根本搞不清楚谁是站务呢,反倒是这次弹劾让我知道Sebastian是站务。而我后来也不知道弹劾的结果,导致后来偶尔碰到Sebastian的时候还战战兢兢的。
   不论如何,我就是这样走入了一塌糊涂,也许初生的阶段成长的很缓慢,但是正如我前面所说的,一旦跟这个BBS发生了某种关系,比如报告,我的整个人就会加速陷入其中了。
   下一节:一入江湖岁月催(怎么还是武侠名字?)
——我开始灌水了,尽管我还没有听过报告,也没有报告过……我去nothing版、去freshmen版……我认识了一些人……试图报告……我兢兢业业乐此不疲……
——我当了第一个版务,听了一场莫名其妙的报告。
——投诉案再一次发生了,并且演变成了弹劾,但是这一切好像都跟我没有关系,面对风波,我永远像个局外人……
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发信人: babecue (向来痴), 信区: YTHT
标  题: ooj的一塌糊涂史(3)
发信站: 一塌糊涂 BBS (Thu Apr 22 22:49:36 2004), 本站(ytht.net)
        一入江湖岁月催——我的千禧年
   2000年不是已经在上面一节里面过去了吗,为什么又要换个名头出来?事实上我在这里并不认为时间和事件真的是线性发生的,就比如这个2000年吧,它一会儿叫作二○○○年,一会儿又被称为千禧年。二○○○代表一个数字,说明它比一九九九大一个,比二○○一小一个;千禧代表一个分界,说明这个年份在一千年里面才能碰上一个。在二○○○年里面,我羞涩而传统地守着那个一塌糊涂,仿佛一塌糊涂永远高高在上;在千禧年里面,我真的开始跟过去的生活画出了界限,跟过去说再见,走入新的时代,一塌糊涂结结实实地掉在了我的现实里。朴树有首歌叫"我去2000年",里面说:
     说不出什么感觉/
     当我准备去告别/
     我心中荒草家园/
     真理出没的夜/
     新的人间化装舞会/
     早已经开演/
     好了再见/
     我要走了我去2000年/
   这大概就是我的千禧年感受。
   说到走出系版灌水,具体日子我真的记不清了,不过一定是2000年9月到12月之间的事情。某天的晚上,我不知道怎么走到一个什么版面去灌水了,遇到一个人很奇怪。当时已经很晚了,他在那里灌水灌到别人都走了,他说他在南门外面的某个网吧通宵,等老板来开了门他就可以去吃早饭了。我就这样开始了跟一个陌生人的通宵灌水,从他那里知道了很多糊涂上的著名id,也是那一天开始我能记住id了。那个id是arm,昵称叫作"美人蕉",这致使我长时间分不清他的性别。那天的灌水本来是要以一次早餐报告结束的,但是我仍然羞涩而没有出席,不然也不会分不清arm的性别了。
   
   于是这样,我开始灌水了,那时主要去nothing灌,去freshman灌,对一些网友的id很新奇,比如akiba,为什么这个id能和爬虫沾上关系呢,而且觉得很生动。也开始从灌水中获得一定的快感,就是看谁灌的快,并且还要比谁岀的小菜多。那段时间里面的糊涂完全是一个大的公共聊天室,每天什么事也不干,灌水也没任何内容,仿佛就是在用打字的动作填补生活的空虚。
   一切的发展都按照双线进行,在一边开始学会灌水的同时,我一边见了一位糊涂上的网友,是通过一个师姐见到的,但是和报告无关。这样,我跟糊涂的关系似乎没有太大改变,我仍然每天上糊涂,每天灌水,但是却从来没有听过报告。不过很快我当上了第一任版务,于是听了一次莫名其妙的报告。一切就开始改变了。
   我本来想申请历史系的版务的,但是那时没有开历史系版,于是我就很冒昧地去了考古系版申请版务。其实考古系版的老版务是很认真的,他们不喜欢灌水,他们的理想是让考古版变成记录考古系的每一天的地方--这也许对我产生了影响,以至于我现在会有一种为BBS写历史的想法。如果他们知道我后来只能能灌水而不会进行管理工作,就一定不会同意我的申请。不过,无论如何,当时我表现的很规矩,于是顺利当上了考古系的版务。上任不到一周的时间,考古系的几位师兄就发信给我让我去听报告,说是版聚,也是给我引见一下考古系版的众位同学。这样我就没有理由不出席了,当时很郑重地穿戴了一下,准时赴约,也成功对上了暗号——第一次成功参加报告。不过,老实说,那次报告真的很另类,参与者成分单一,基本都是考古系的研究生,只有我一个"外人";而且他们在席间谈论的都是学术问题,我就只好搬个小板凳装出一副好学样,干听了。
   让我对BBS的认识发生根本改变的事情,发生在千禧年的最后一天晚上,那个叫作千禧夜的夜晚。那天是我第一次参加大型的报告,认识的糊涂网友比之前加起来的所有还要好好几倍。那天的报告地点是旺福楼地下,报告人是roylex,就是后来当过半任站长的枫儿。那天似乎大半个糊涂的人都出现了,我后来的糊涂朋友圈子基本都建立在那天报告上,有很多人都成为了生活中最好的朋友,陪我渡过在北大后来的三年,也是在糊涂上的三年。
   不过,这次报告在扩大的我的糊涂圈子的同时,其实也限制了我后来结交朋友的范围。这是我在现在回想的时候才发现的。我想了一下,基本上在那次的报告上,我没有见到在糊涂上感觉最传奇的那些id,就是我在开始上糊涂的时候就已经成为传说的一些人,比如当时的站长级人物或者退休站长级人物。而这些人中的多数我在后来也没有怎么见过,大概也都不太熟,甚至有些根本没见过。当然,我与那些人没有见过的原因有些是客观条件的原因,但是事实上,人与人之间的相遇并不像千禧夜报告那样偶然,有些人大概永远处于你心中的彼岸,而自己永远觉得自己处于平凡的现实。而对于将要跟你走的很近的人,就算一次偶遇也可以变成今后天天在一起混的理由。鉴于糊涂在我心中始终有一群传说中的人物,于是我认为我很有平民气质,而我又将自己一贯的平民气质归因于自己踏入江湖的那一刻。
   这样,在我的千禧年的千禧夜里面,我彻底的踏入了糊涂这个江湖,如果要找一句话来形容之后的日子的话,我选一入江湖岁月催--我对BBS生活的适应快的超出我的经验。新的规则,新的游戏,我去过了2000年。
     我要走了我去2000年/
     我要走了 come on boy and girl/
     大家一起去休闲/
     就让该简单的简单/
     大家一起来干杯/
     为这个快乐的年代/
     大家再来干一杯/
     为这个晕了的年代/
     新的游戏  新的面具  新的规矩  学习/
     蓝天白云  星光虫鸣  还有真理  多余!
           朴树——我去2000年
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发信人: babecue (向来痴), 信区: YTHT
标  题: ooj的一塌糊涂史(4)
发信站: 一塌糊涂 BBS (Sat Apr 24 23:56:36 2004), 本站(ytht.net)

         美丽新世界——我的2001
   网络新世界向我张开怀抱,全情投入我的2001,学习新的游戏规则,体验新的网络角色,很快,在这个游戏里,我开始有点显得从容不迫游刃有余——这就是我在一塌糊涂的2001年。
   千禧年报告的胜景果然好花常开,这一年我开始我记不住自己已经参加了几个报告,也记不住每天要敲几个报告,同样,我更加记不住为了敲报告到底灌了多少水。最为充分的关于我在糊涂上堕落生活的证据存在于某版精华区的一个旮旯里。那里面记述的我和我的朋友一天的生活如下:叫别人起床灌水;某人被电话叫起床灌水;打电话敲报告;打电话通知别人有报告听;先听吃饭报告再听纨绔报告,结果没喝够酒;后来发现三个人身上只有一块五,发誓不听报告,结果又蹭了报告;不听报告结果被mm骚扰,要求一定要报告;逃报告;还有报告mm去看dd,如果这也算是一种报告的话……或许这个记述有点含混,但是那只是表明当时我自己也根本分不清到底是什么情况了。不过可以肯定,在2001年的很多时间里,我和BBS之间就是这样一种关系:上BBS——敲报告——报告进行中——喝醉了——醒了——继续上BBS。这样的生活妩媚而诱惑,仿佛YTHT才是现实,报告才是虚幻的世界。
   不过请不要认为我在那个年代就只干了这样的事情,更加不要认为一塌糊涂在那个年代除了灌水和报告以外就没有其他变化。事实上我在那一年里面跟糊涂的互动远不只大量报告那么简单;而一塌糊涂表面上虽然停滞不前,还是一个完完全全的温馨小站,但是暗地里已经开始显示岀后来发达的苗头。
   那年我的其他事迹按照时间先后如下:
   1月,发动群众帮助tatar等人成立历史系版(History)。该版在之前曾经两度向站务申请开设,都没有成功,在我加入吆喝以后顺利批复;
   3月,申请担任Newboy版版务,从此灌水事业进入高潮。因为自己掌握了水版的删文权和封人权,从此不必担心有人再来干涉自己灌水了,而且随时随地都可以发动灌水运动;
   4月,卸任Archaeology版版务,自此结束了在考古系版尸位素餐,并且不敢放手在那里灌水,还要作出一副道貌岸然的学术表情的日子。这样灌起水来就更加没有心理负担了;
   7月,辞去Newboy版版务,大概因为招到自己的好朋友当版务,而我甚至懒得自己删水,反正就算不当版主,在Newboy一样可以为所欲为地灌水;
   10月,发生站务qunten越权直接撤销Newboy版版副aixi职务的事件,于是发起投诉+弹劾案。这是我第一次也是目前为止最后一次参与糊涂的诉讼,并且矛头直指站务;
   11月,投诉案结案,部分胜诉,但是aixi的职务没有恢复,弹劾也没有成功,而判作记过。投诉案结案一周后,站务qunten辞职。糊涂推出新版孵化制度,我申请Dream版,并且和slong申请的Fantasy版作为第一批进入孵化的版面,开始进入版面孵化阶段;
   12月,Dream版孵化期满,正式被宣布孵化失败,进入关版议程。糊涂推出俱乐部制度,在bigbirdliu的建议下,我申请将Dream版转入俱乐部,从此Dream版进入了一年多的俱乐部阶段。
   一整理,竟然发现在那2001年里面我还有如此多的"伟绩"。以上所述都是一些客观的事件,当时有当时的想法,在今天看来,我对其中的每一件几乎都有了新的认识。
   大体上,上面那些事情可以分入三个范畴。1)通过灌水而提高自己在YTHT的号召力,并且从"表面上"形成了自己在YTHT的小团体,尽管我现在都不承认自己有意加入或者组建过小团体,但是相信在当时网友的眼里,我和Newboy版灌水的一票人明显是一种类型的小团体,至少是组织松散的小团体,并且这个小团体的活动可以在数次当年的事件中被体察到。2)通过投诉这样的渠道参与了一次全站性事物。3)参与版面制度改革,并且作为实验品亲历了糊涂一次重大改革的最早阶段。这三个方面虽然被我在这里分得很清楚,但其实是互相交织的。
   帮助tatar申请成立历史系版和担任Newboy版版务的经历是组织和显示自己在一塌糊涂上的所谓"势力圈"的过程。如前所述,History版在之前有两次申请提议,但是站务组都压了下来(第一次是申请历史版,而不是历史系版;第二次tatar的申请没有人理会),1月的时候我刚参加过千禧年报告,朋友的圈子一下子画的很大,ooj这个id或者说蛋蛋鸡这个昵称一下子进入了大家的视野,所以趁热打铁一举将tatar申请的联署拉够了人,并且能够吸引站务的眼球来批准这个申请。当我申请Newboy的版务之后,灌水更加疯狂,也进一步巩固和扩大了自己的一些朋友关系。这就是我所说的小团体的形成。在事后对站务qunten的投诉+弹劾案当中,这些人发出的声音也许偏离了理性,并且给人造成小团体的印象,但是确实造成了虽然无理取闹却显得大获人心的局面。而qunten紧接着的辞职,就算不是主要因为我们的挑衅,至少也是由于我们的表现让他对糊涂的发展完全失去了信心。
   关于对qunten的投诉+弹劾案这件事,其实是我们的小团体灌水行为给糊涂造成的负面影响。我在后来的糊涂经历中非常反感各种各样的小团体,并且始终清醒地保持着自己和这些小团体的举例,但是却很少反思自己作为小团体时的行为。当然,我们这个围绕Newboy灌水形成的小团体,我还是要加个"所谓的"小团体,是属于结构比较松散、排外性很弱的一种小团体,也没有在非公开版面之外的地方"谋划"过什么事情。但是尽管这样,我现在相信qunten在对投诉案的答辩中的话是很正确的,我们这样小团体的灌水,只会让糊涂越来越小。是呀,我们永远在版面上说着只有自己才知道的事情,甚至大多数时候没有任何实质内容,有的永远是"嘻嘻"、"哈哈"、"re"、"sp""、……"这样的纯净水,这种"公共"版面还谈什么吸引"外人"来呢?而对于qunten后来的辞职,我在今天觉得非常遗憾。在我现在的评估里面,qunten是糊涂从开站以来少有的最有能力的站务之一,显然,他在未明和糊涂同时竞选的那份纲领显示岀他是想在北大的BBS上施展一番专业作为的,但是很不幸,未明落选,糊涂当时的局面又是那样……当然,我猜测以他当时在读phd的位置,在客观上也很难有充足的时间来对BBS进行改革,可能他的竞选本身具有的热情超越了行动。而且,当时糊涂的情况是小圈子已经发育成熟,站虽小,想撼动某些灌水集团却是很难的。这样,我们可以认为一塌糊涂进入了一个平台期,或者瓶颈期,那一年里面似乎都只能保持着那点可怜的上站人数,并且承包着西门外小饭店的大部分生意。所以在我对qunten投诉的过程中,我的很多朋友都感情代替了理智,非常激烈地帮助我讨说法,并且表示对站务的失望。在这样的情况下,似乎qunten也只有辞职离开这个BBS一条明路可走,离开这个施展不开拳脚的地方或许能更好地投入学术研究。
   关于这次投诉+弹劾案,其实我可以学到更多东西,但是由于一些原因,我对一些该了解的事情,其实知道的很泛泛。比如,我是在2001年10月31号晚上11点53分递交的投诉,接着就熄灯了,而第二天我整天都在参加嘉德举行德冬季拍卖会展览场,所以第二天大家的辩论我都没看到,回来的时候很多激烈的争论已经被删除了;而我也懒得翻那些不开心的事情,实在是由于我这个人的政治敏感性和面对打击的耐受力都很低,当时自己还意冷心灰的好不开心,而我的好朋友aixi也从此很少上YTHT了。但是我现在知道这次错过了很多东西,比如糊涂上的小团体的声音,一些有水平的争论,甚至争论演变成恶言相向的过程。这些都是我的BBS生涯很欠缺的,我在面对这些的时候往往会绕开走,面对争论,我永远像个局外人。
   至于从孵化制度到俱乐部制度的改革,其意义在今天已经不用我来加重了。我翻查了一下立法会的精华区资料,能体会出来BridgeD和hubing等人对糊涂改制的摸索过程。在基本一年后,BridgeD加入了糊涂站务组,并且引入了特区和原创区等BBS概念,其中有成功的经验,也有失败的教训。但是不论如何,我认为糊涂的改革是从版面孵化制度开始的,所以我的这次失败的Dream经验对糊涂而言却是很有一些意义的。另外,Dream版的创建是我第一次在BBS上认真地做些事情,而不是灌水,那一个月的孵化期里面,我第一次体会到了在BBS上做版面是很辛苦的事情,更不用说认真从事站务或者其他的管理了。这么说来,讲几句体外话,这个YTHT版是我在Dream两年半之后第二次试图做岀一个版面来,跟开Dream那会儿不同,这次我给YTHT不仅加了讨论范围,还企图给YTHT中的讨论加上一套格式和内容,不知道这次实验的结果会是如何……啊,说跑题了。
   总之,这里的2001年,我略去了太多的BBS生活琐事,包括感情、吃饭和娱乐。一个新的世界需要我去学习,去加入其中;而一塌糊涂也在一点一点摸索自己的发展道路。那么在2001年里面,如果说我对BBS的使用虽然算的上成熟的,那我对BBS游戏规则的理解其实还只是起步;而一塌糊涂在这一年里面进入了一个发展的平台,基本裹步不前,但是内里却已经开始蕴育着一个不同凡响的网络奇迹。
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发信人: babecue (向来痴), 信区: YTHT
标  题: ooj的一塌糊涂史(5)
发信站: 一塌糊涂 BBS (Wed Apr 28 03:01:47 2004), 本站(ytht.net)
         2002:无关紧要的一年
   写到这里的时候,我想起了《万历十五年》的英文名——1587:无关紧要的一年。其实按照中国王朝史的叫法,我这节的题目应该叫作《糊涂三年》,但是我更加偏好于用一个更加明白的题目。就好像说《1587:无关紧要的一年》别人就不仅知道这一年属于明万历十五年,而且知道作者对这一年的态度是,认为这一年在那个朝代并不突出;而翻译作《万历十五年》就只能传达第一层意思了,虽然这个名字显得比较中国化。
   2002年之所以无关紧要,是因为这一年里一塌糊涂BBS并没有发生后来这么大的变化,比如一跃成为教育网最大的BBS。当然从站务制度上来讲,这一年和别的年份一样发生了一些常规变化,比如推出了一个叫监察组的组织;有了帐号管理员这个职务,将帐号审批工作从站务的日常工作中分了出来;建立了特区制度。但是监察组制度的效果可以说甚微,因为监察组成员的责权不明晰,这种情况保持到今天,而监察组似乎已经名存实亡了,正式的组员也只有一届。帐号管理员制度是后来不断改进的,但是那一年里面也只有一名帐管,而且当时的糊涂帐号审批工作压力也绝对不如现在这么大。特区制度虽然是糊涂的一大原创,而且那一年里面,特区上来就推出了sex版,着实吸引了一些人气,使糊涂的在线人数有了一个提升,但是这种变化相对于糊涂后来发生的飞跃有点显得微不足道。这样,2002年里面糊涂在质的层面上讲可以说仍然停留在平台期,比如这一年进行的两次站务选举,投票人都只有百十来号,我的在线好友永远是全站在线人数的十分之一。似乎一切的改革还都没有收到成效。说明那一年如此平淡的最生动的例子是站衫事件(站衫的制作和站庆似乎已经成了糊涂的年度大戏),当时的情景就只能用半死不活来形容——这种活动似乎已经完全不能吸引网友的眼球了,只有几个热心网友热乎劲很足,卖站衫的站务被钱搞的焦头烂额,我连续发了三次好友群体信件吆喝大家去买站衫,结果还是很狼狈。总之这一次的情况,既没有第一次做站衫的那种兴奋劲,又不像后来一次这样制度化,完全是走个形式,当时的站务loop就盼着赶紧卖完了站衫、搞完了站庆,然后下台。
   那这一年糊涂是不是就真的如此乏善可陈呢?如果从表面上看,我只能说确实如此。但是换个角度来看,那一年,在平静的一塌糊涂后面隐藏的是无数的暗流和矛盾,并且这些暗流在糊涂上互相冲击着,矛盾激化着。可以这么说,那一年的糊涂是"温馨小站"日子的正式终结,糊涂的各种潜在势力完全发育成熟,也迅速退隐出去,糊涂面临的只有两条路:要么永远平静下去,不断萎缩,最终和无数小BBS一样从人们的眼里消失;要么冲出局限,彻底改变形象,改变自身的定位,变成一个多元化的大社区。这样说来,2002年在糊涂历史上是一个具有标志性的年份,她代表了三年小站的游戏终结,也蕴育着一种新的BBS格局的形成。
   先来看看那一年糊涂上的几件平常的事情吧。
   2002年3月,第四届站务选举开始。这届站务选举可谓一波三折。最初的候选人如下:
creamdance、bigbirdliu、lush、dylan、ltkevin、akiba
   第一次投票结果如下(为什么出现所谓的第一次投票,这正是这次选举的复杂之处):
一塌糊涂BBS站务选举投票一:赞成票
** 投票结果:
(A) bigbirdliu                                 111 票  约占 26%
(B) creamdance                                  68 票  约占 15%
(C) lush                                        83 票  约占 19%
(D) dylan                                       71 票  约占 16%
(E) ltkevin                                     25 票  约占 5%
(F) akiba                                       68 票  约占 15%
投票总人数 = 205 人
投票总票数 = 426 票
一塌糊涂BBS站务选举投票二:反对票
** 投票结果:
(A) bigbirdliu                                  10 票  约占 6%
(B) creamdance                                  28 票  约占 18%
(C) lush                                        34 票  约占 22%
(D) dylan                                       15 票  约占 10%
(E) ltkevin                                     40 票  约占 26%
(F) akiba                                       22 票  约占 14%
(资料来源:SM_Election版精华区x-4-5目录)
   这样,初步投票结果是bigbirdliu、dylan、lush进入为期一个月的站务实习,akiba和creamdance列入站务候补实习名单。事情发生蹊跷在一个月后的站务转正信任投票,那次投票的结果我还是援引一份当时的站务公告来展示:
发信人: loop (圈圈), 信区: SM_Election
标  题: [转载] [公告]关于站务选举的公告
发信站: 一塌糊涂 BBS (Wed May  8 09:09:51 2002), 本站(ytht.net)
【 以下文字转载自 Announce 讨论区 】
【 原文由 loop 所发表 】
   在本次站务选举信任投票中,三个实习站务lush,dylan,bigbirdliu没有通过信任投票,故无法转为正式站务,从即日起离任,相关权限去除。为感谢他们这么多天的辛勤劳动,授予他们永久帐号权限。
   根据站规,候补站务akiba,creamdance转为实习站务,从今日起开始为期一个月的实习,实习期结束后,举行为期7天的信任投票。投票者为全站所有斑竹,
仲裁,监察,系统维护以及站务。
                                            一塌糊涂站务组
                                             2002-5-7
   这种投票结果实在是太出乎大家的意料了,难道是糊涂的选举机制有问题?或者候选人真的有问题?又或者是糊涂的选民有问题?
   一切的风波都被一位网友的投票留言挑逗了起来。下面是第一次信任票的投票留言:
smoke 的建议如下:
我实际是受别人指示
我并不熟悉这几个人
ai,不要恨我(针对dylan的信任投票留言)
smoke 的建议如下:
没报告就想转正阿
有没有党性
呵呵(针对lush的信任投票留言)
smoke 的建议如下:
其实也不差这一票
既然有哥们让我反对(针对bigbirdliu的信任投票留言)
(资料来源:同上)
   如果在别的投票中出现这样的留言,可能没有人会注意,但是偏偏出现在这次全部被否决的结果中,就实在挑动了很多人的神经。另外,smoke网友是糊涂最老的一批网友,当时他已经不常来糊涂了,却在这个时候现身,就更加使一些人想到:可能有人恶意做票,故意冲击站务选举。关于糊涂选举中的拉票现象在这次选举之前也不是没有,但是造成这样毁灭性效果的还是第一次,这不能不说极大地刺激了很多人,从此之后,糊涂的选举制度就在拉票(尤其是拉反对票)方面不断进行限制,但是新的情况还是不断发生,这个是2002年以后的事情,这里先不提。
   在这样的背景下,显然akiba和creamdance实习信任票的结果也不比前面三位好。如果这样,糊涂将无法选出具有合法性的站务!糊涂还缺少一套应急制度来应对这样的情况。仅仅是这三次投票就用去了三个多月的时间,这就是常规下四分之一个站务任期,所以糊涂已经经不起再来一次全民公投了。况且,问题的根源不拉出来的话,很可能永远投不岀一个合格的站务了。
   我们这里先不来分析这件事的相关背景,还是看看这场风波是怎么解决的。鉴于这种情况无法继续投票,使糊涂的元老们感觉有必要通过强权来稳定局势,于是在他们的动议和站务组的支持下,进行了第四次小范围的站务信任投票,结果如下:
发信人: cliff (喜欢骄傲小公主的胖囡囡), 信区: SM_Election
标  题: [转载] [公告]新一届站务组成立
发信站: 一塌糊涂 BBS (Sat Jun 22 23:15:28 2002), 本站(ytht.net)
【 以下文字转载自 Announce 讨论区 】
【 原文由 cliff 所发表 】
  根据信任投票结果,akiba bigbirdliu creamdance网友转为一塌糊涂站正式站务,授予SYSOP等同权限,任期一年。SM_election版3日后改为只读。
  同时一塌糊涂站务组成员如下;
  loop cliff akiba bigbirdliu creamdance
  站务组将会一如既往为本站开展工作,欢迎大家监督并提出意见和建议。
  感谢大家对糊涂的支持。
                                                YTHT站务委员会
                                                   2002.6.22
(资料来源:同上)
   这个结果可以看作是一种强制的效果,也可以看作是一种权力的妥协。
   为什么这么说?我稍后再谈,因为有必要补充一些相关信息。下面先来说说这次投票的另外一个后果,那就是造成了选民情绪的极度低落,在事隔不到四个月之后的站务中期补选中,投票id的数目惨不忍睹,得赞成票得候选人没有超过100票的。不过就没有岀类似的偏差,而且那次选出来的站务确实素质比较高,并且扭转了糊涂的平台局面。(有关投票资料请参考SM_Election版精华区x-4-6目录)
   与这次站务选举基本平行的一件事情是监察组的成立。发出成立监察组的公告在2002年3月17日,经过申请和站务组讨论,我(ooj)、lhx、洛丽塔、Riverboy和Young在3月22号正式成为第一届监察组成员。(见SYSOP精华区x-8-10目录)尽管到今天我都没搞清楚糊涂的监察到底需要干什么,以及行使权力的可操作性在哪里,但是当时就我个人而言,加入监察组的目的是很明确的——努力限制糊涂上的小团体势力。而大家如果浏览SYSOP精华区x-8-10目录的话,也会发现,对于监察的权责,讨论最激烈的问题就是监察是否应该拥有进入隐藏俱乐部的权限。就当时而言,糊涂从系统功能上已经为小团体留出了空间,形式就是隐藏俱乐部,而隐藏俱乐部完全是一个封闭的空间,就连站务也没有进入的权限。那时的糊涂普遍有一种猜测,那就是隐藏俱乐部并不仅仅是讨论俱乐部成员的私人问题,或者讨论面向小众的话题,很多人暗暗觉得那里会策划些什么干扰站务的事情,或者排斥大众的事情。一个不好听的流言就是:个别隐藏俱乐部已经成为事实上的第二站务组。我有理由相信,立法会成员发起成立监察组的目的就在于监督糊涂上小团体可能策动的干涉非小团体的行动。当时的我兴冲冲地冲入监察组,幻想自己能像独立检察官一样为糊涂伸张正义。事实证明,监察组最后成员的确定也是一种各方权力的妥协,比如当时参与立法的hubing同时申请加入监察组,却被否决。从一定程度上讲,也是由于站务组对他有成见,担心他跟当时在任的站务组过不去。因为某种意义上说,站务组也是一个小团体,当站务组觉得可能出现一个很棘手的对手的时候,还是选择避开他。这样,最后进入监察组的人其实都是被大家普遍认为比较平和,处事比较公正,人缘比较好的好好先生了(包括我在内)。
   如果上面说到的我对当时糊涂小团体的理解都是建立在留言和推测上,那么我想我有必要提供一个个人经验来说明那些猜测确实是可能存在的。
   在加入监察组之前,我个人曾经拥有一个隐藏俱乐部的权限,也是我在糊涂上唯一加入过的一个隐藏俱乐部(后来的一些系统管理版面不算)。那段时间比较巧,刚好该俱乐部有三名成员参加第四届站务的竞选--lush、creamdance和ltkevin。我发现隐藏俱乐部成了站务选举的集体谋划地,并且出现有人代替候选人回答网友提问的问题。这种情况我非常看不过眼。我在这里必须强调,从我的性格出发,是讨厌一切暗箱操作的,那种有点较真的耿直一直延续在我的糊涂岁月里,这也许是我一直都比较具有平民气质的原因。于是,在那种情况下,我在公开版面暗示性的揭发了他们的这种行为,并且声明退出该俱乐部。事实上,在加入俱乐部的时候,我完全没有意识到这是一个权力的小团体,而且当时跟俱乐部成员的私人关系都比较好;后来我才发现,原来人在面对权力的时候会发生变化和分化;而事实上,小团体的每个人也许都是很善良并且优秀的,但是集体行为却可能偏离公正。在我后来第四届站务选举的旁观过程中,不难看出,那样的投票结局正是这个俱乐部和另外一个俱乐部互相争斗的结果。而我作为监察组的成员,面对这样的情况是非常无力的,监察制度的不完善使糊涂的监察组始终是个被架空的机构。
   在补充了以上的关于监察组和隐藏俱乐部的信息以后,我现在可以对第四次站务选举进行分析了。那次站务选举固然牵涉到两个小团体的对峙,但其实有第三方势力参与。这个第三方势力并不是某个小团体。正如前面所说,糊涂当时有一种关于小团体的猜测很盛,很多人认为小团体会故意冲击选举,于是一些可能并没有私下联系的人在这种传言下站在了同一条战线(我相信我属于这一批人之一),他们可能在选举的时候由于对小团体势力的误解而在客观上投岀了一些本不该出现的反对票。这样,关于smoke说的有人拉他去投反对票的事情其实没有原本想象的严重,而且这个责任也不能单纯归咎于拉smoke去投票的那个小团体或者人(我没有考证过到底是谁拉smoke去投票的,而且不确定那个人属于某个小团体,所以很可能smoke的案例更加加深了一部分人对某个小团体的误解)。
   下面我们来重构一下当时的选情。第一次投票结果反映了初次权力交锋的结果,lush网友当选,而akiba落选,相信这中间第三方势力的作用比较大(我这里需要补充,当时普遍认为akiba是BT俱乐部这个小团体的代表人,而当时这个俱乐部给很多人的感觉不好,于是虽然akiba为人很好而且人缘也很好,却落选了。关于这个俱乐部我在后面还会谈到,这里提出完全不带任何我现在的价值判断)。在第二次投票,也就是实习信任投票的时候,很可能的情况是,参选的lush所在的小团体也动员过过网友去投票,而akiba所在的小团体也动员过网友去投票,而根据smoke的投票留言,很容易给人造成他是被BT俱乐部拉去投反对票的。不论如何,出现了偏离常态的结果,三位实习站务全部落马。相信如果这次是小团体反应的话,也是小团体对于反小团体的第三方势力的反弹。而bigbirdliu等网友就成了这次权力斗争中的炮灰。最后只有修改制度,从上而下,靠部分元老的威望来给出一个折衷的解决。我前面说这个结果也是权力妥协的产物,也可以从那次选出的站务格局中看出来:    bigbirdliu作为元老信任的人进入站务组,akiba和creamdance分别作为小团体的代表进入站务组。而且在这个站务的选择上也反映了结果的这种折衷性,比如akiba的为人当时的老网友还都比较熟悉,所以抵消了对他所代表的小团体的负面情绪,至少大家认为akiba是个不错的人选;而creamdance的入选,也是因为在竞选过程中,大家认为lush的表现太突出,creamdance相对平淡很多,所以认为接纳她进入站务组比较安全;而bigbirdliu作为第一次投票赞成最多的候选人,进入站务组是理所当然的。
   我必须声明,以上对第四次站务选举的选情重构完全来自我的个人观察和推测,而关于这方面的官方资料是不可能获得的。所以,如果有人觉得我的分析缺乏证据,我欣然接受这样的批评。也欢迎知情者来补充或者推翻我的推测。
   关于这种势力斗争的余波还可以从2002年底的站务补选中看到一些痕迹,比如投票id明显较上次选举少,aprilsnail的赞成票非常的少,而反对票非常的多(因为大家相信她是BT俱乐部的成员,而事实上,aprilsnail是一位非常好的网友,这在她后来担任帐号管理员的表现中就能看出来)。相信这些都是上次选举的阴影在现实中的再次重现。而关于另外一位很热门的候选人suise的落选,相信来自另外的小团体斗争。这种小团体源于九区,关于游戏区的情况我不熟悉,但是也对那里的情况有部分了解,在2002年的后面部分,我会提到。
  关于小团体,或者隐藏俱乐部(非九区的游戏小团体,这种小团体的性质有所不同,因为他们的凝聚力往往来自于游戏而不是BBS原生的),在2002年的历史中是必须做浓墨重彩地记述的,因为在这一年之后,这些小团体迅速从糊涂上隐退了。有些可能一直存在,并且作为一种潜在势力还不时能被人察觉到,而有些可能根本就从内部分裂了。也许他们厌倦了这种权力的争斗,但是关于他们的偏见或者说误解,相信还长时间存在于我们这一代糊涂人的脑海里。其实,在来到BBS的时候,每个人都是陌生人,只是后来有些人志同道合走得近了,就成了一种松散的小圈子,比如我在本系列文章的上一篇中提到的关于我所进入的在Newboy版灌水形成的那种"小团体"。后来当碰到权力斗争的时候,这种小圈子有可能就变成了一种动员资源的工具。而一旦这种观念被之外的人接受,就往往会对小团体产生误解。不过幸好这种误解往往是一种群体性的,而不一定针对个别id。比如前面提到的BT俱乐部,又称BT帮,开始的时候就是一波糊涂上最老的id在test灌水,后来演变成了隐藏俱乐部。我相信这个俱乐部是糊涂上产生的第一个明确边界的小团体,并且也是被最多人误解的小团体。这从一定程度上增加了外人和他的内部成员之间的交流,但是我不得不承认,我见过的BT帮的成员其实和我们没有什么区别,而且有些人也和我过从甚密。误解往往都是来自于不了解,或者传说,其实所谓小团体的排外性和行为就是一个被BBS上的语言神话的过程。有时候可能小团体的成员自己也被这种神话误导了。
   不论如何,在2002年以后,这种糊涂上原生的小团体的风波再也没有过了。这也就是我为什么说2002年虽然平淡,却是传统BBS游戏规则终结的标志。在其后的日子里,一塌糊涂在不断创造和适应新的规则,也不断调整着自己的定位。后面的时间里变化太多了,我时常想,如果半个月不上糊涂,再登录的时候会不会找不到路了。
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